CB
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So I take it you have it turned off most of the time ? hehe. I have the active handling turned off most of the time [it's a real kill joy] so the computer doesn't cut power to the engine and apply brakes when I gun it and the tires start spinning and smoking.
CB
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The Judge
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I can smell the rubber, CB!
Judge John
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3/1 Back Pre-Exhaust Super Set: Pulley Pullovers 90/15; 110/12; 130/10; 150/10 Lat Machine Pulldowns 125/12; 170/10; 185/5; 185/5 Shrugs 180/12; 270/6; 320/3 (used straps but the thumb still limited my reps) Hyperextensions 15; 12; 12
Judge John
"You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they could and should do for themselves." - Abraham Lincoln
"I live, I lift, I ache, I am." - Dave Draper
"Moderation assures mediocrity -- nice, safe. Mediocrity is for the mediocre -- simple, okay. The intense rule; the mediocre follow." - Dave Draper
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CB
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How was the thumb on the pullovers and pulldowns ? And after the WO ?
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The Judge
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Not great. I use the hard brace made by the OT and also keep the bars on the outside of my palm. The problem was more with the shrugs. I used straps but they didn't help much. I can't use the thumb and it really weakens the grip only using fingers. Fortunately, my traps grow faster than any other muscle group and don't need much stimulation. I may have to use lighter weights and more reps. Although I am sure it won't help, I ordered the Emu oil from Donb's friend and will try that when it arrives.
Judge John
"You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they could and should do for themselves." - Abraham Lincoln
"I live, I lift, I ache, I am." - Dave Draper
"Moderation assures mediocrity -- nice, safe. Mediocrity is for the mediocre -- simple, okay. The intense rule; the mediocre follow." - Dave Draper
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Laree
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Although I am sure it won't help, I ordered the Emu oil from Donb's friend and will try that when it arrives.
Please yell real loud for the rest of us if it does work!
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The Judge
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Don't worry. I will shout it from the rooftops.
Judge John
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Amazonblonde
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John.... I tryed the emu and really was expecting something really fast which I didn't get...but Don has since told me to use it religiously for 14 days and see what happens...so I need to do that:-)...This thing hurts really bad ...don't it?:-(
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The Judge
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Yes, Lori, it really sucks. Today and yesterday were bad days. When it gets too much, I take some ibuprofen and it helps. The pad of the thumb is starting to swell. I know I will need the surgery but I want to hold off as long as possible. I fear that it will limit my training even more than now and I can't have that! I think your job must really be tough on this condition. Can you wear a brace while you work dough? Do you have to knead or is it done by machine? Movement is good for arthritis but not stressful movement. Also, ice will lower pain and inflammation. Heat can bring mild relief as well. But I am afraid that nothing will "cure" it. I don't think most people realize how important the thumb is for everyday tasks as well as our training. Hang in there! Trust me - I feel your pain!
Judge John
"You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they could and should do for themselves." - Abraham Lincoln
"I live, I lift, I ache, I am." - Dave Draper
"Moderation assures mediocrity -- nice, safe. Mediocrity is for the mediocre -- simple, okay. The intense rule; the mediocre follow." - Dave Draper
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Amazonblonde
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I can wear the brace to do the dugh side but not to decorate...it frustrates me badly..and today my mood was not the best so just went without it and I could tell a big difference...the pain factor was awful!!...I am having a problem with it getting stinky...found out that you should just hand wash it ..so I'll see if that works(I was afraid it would fall apart)..What do you do??...Thanks for all your knowledge on the subject..it really helps!!!:-)
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Wicked Willie
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"I am having a problem with it getting stinky...found out that you should just hand wash it ..so I'll see if that works(I was afraid it would fall apart).." Uh, this has really ruined Publix chocolate cake for me.... Wicked
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Amazonblonde
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Um......I do wear latex gloves Willie...so no worrys...and remember when I decorate I don't wear the thing...cuz I can't squeeze the bag:-)
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The Judge
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and remember when I decorate I don't wear the thing... Man, Lori, I would imagine that you must draw a crowd when you decorate those cakes. I heard of car washes like that but not bakeries! Sorry, I couldn't resist. BTW, is your brace hard plastic? If so, you can wash it with dish soap by hand. You have to be careful with heat because it can change the shape. I was told not to leave it in the car in the summer. In Florida you really have to be careful about that.
Judge John
"You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they could and should do for themselves." - Abraham Lincoln
"I live, I lift, I ache, I am." - Dave Draper
"Moderation assures mediocrity -- nice, safe. Mediocrity is for the mediocre -- simple, okay. The intense rule; the mediocre follow." - Dave Draper
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The Judge
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3/3 Shoulders and Arms Pre-Exhaust Super-Set: Dumbbell Laterals 20/12; 25/12; 30/10; 30/9 Seated Dumbbell Presses 35/12; 40/12; 45/10; 45/9 Rear Delt Raises 20/12; 25/12; 25/10; 30/6 Pre-Exhaust Super Set: Supinated Alternative Dumbbell Curls 30/12; 35/12; 35/12 Close Grip Chins - neutral grip/assisted 100/10; 100/6; 100/6 Pre-Exhaust Super Set: Cable Pushdowns 130/15; 150/12; 160/9; 170/8 Cable Pressdowns 130/15; 160/12; 170/7; 180/6 My weight is up to 217 - a gain of 5 pounds in a month and with less body fat. This is terrific at this point of training for me. I am eating clean and the gains are actually more than 5 pounds of lean mass. However, I feel very tired and may not be recovering sufficiently. Also, this damn thumb is really bad the last week.
Judge John
"You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they could and should do for themselves." - Abraham Lincoln
"I live, I lift, I ache, I am." - Dave Draper
"Moderation assures mediocrity -- nice, safe. Mediocrity is for the mediocre -- simple, okay. The intense rule; the mediocre follow." - Dave Draper
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The Judge
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3/4 Legs/Abs Leg Extensions 135/12; 180/12; 210/12; 225/11 Lying Leg Curls 90/12; 100/12; 110/7; 115/6 Cybex Leg/Squat 270/12; 360/12; 450/12; 540/9 Seated Calf 90/20; 180/15; 200/10 Skipped Standing Calf due to trap bruising from last calf workout. Hanging Knee-Ups 25/25/25/25 Hammer Crunch Machine 70/12; 80/11; 80/10; 80/9 Looking forward to rest this weekend. Progress has been excellent but the old bod is feeling whipped.
Judge John
"You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they could and should do for themselves." - Abraham Lincoln
"I live, I lift, I ache, I am." - Dave Draper
"Moderation assures mediocrity -- nice, safe. Mediocrity is for the mediocre -- simple, okay. The intense rule; the mediocre follow." - Dave Draper
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Stingo
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Good w/o John..... Have a good rest. I know what you mean about feeling whooped... Give those thumbs a rest too...
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The Judge
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Thanks Steve! Yeah, I am enjoying my weekend off. As I hobbled along last night when we walked downtown, my wife scolded me for doing too much at the gym. Of course, as always, she is right but you know, we are just a crazy bunch of obsessed individuals.
Judge John
"You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they could and should do for themselves." - Abraham Lincoln
"I live, I lift, I ache, I am." - Dave Draper
"Moderation assures mediocrity -- nice, safe. Mediocrity is for the mediocre -- simple, okay. The intense rule; the mediocre follow." - Dave Draper
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CB
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You'll feel like a 20 year old again by Monday. Enjoy your weekend.
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The Judge
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LOL!!! CB, feeling like a 20 year old is beyond my hopes but how about a 40 year old? Enjoy your weekend also my friend.
Judge John
"You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they could and should do for themselves." - Abraham Lincoln
"I live, I lift, I ache, I am." - Dave Draper
"Moderation assures mediocrity -- nice, safe. Mediocrity is for the mediocre -- simple, okay. The intense rule; the mediocre follow." - Dave Draper
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Quote:
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feeling like a 20 year old is beyond my hopes but how about a 40 year old?
Another year and I'll be wishing I felt this good when I WAS 40... ;~)
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The Judge
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Steve, You're just a kid!
Judge John
"You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they could and should do for themselves." - Abraham Lincoln
"I live, I lift, I ache, I am." - Dave Draper
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Berry
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Get off it guys, there ain't no such thing as "Old" if your a bomber! Age is relative.
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Stingo
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Steve,
You're just a kid!
I bet I have more gray hair than you John... ;-)
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The Judge
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Yeah Berry, it's relatice to my old aching joints! heh, heh. You're a wise guy, Steve! :o).No hair means no gray hair. When I started shaving my head years ago, I didn't have gray hair. I have no idea what's under my scalp now (and I ain't going to find out!).
Judge John
"You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they could and should do for themselves." - Abraham Lincoln
"I live, I lift, I ache, I am." - Dave Draper
"Moderation assures mediocrity -- nice, safe. Mediocrity is for the mediocre -- simple, okay. The intense rule; the mediocre follow." - Dave Draper
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The Judge
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3/7 Chest Pre-Exhaust Super Set: Dumbbell Flyes 45/12; 55/12; 65/10; 65/8 Incline Dumbbell Presses 55/12; 65/12; 75/7; 75/5 Cable Crossovers 60/12; 70/12; 70/10; 85/6 Dragging a little today in the gym. Had to run several errands before going and lots on my mind. I think that took some steam out of me. But I was able to increase reps on almost every set so I felt good. Tonight my boobs are hurting good!
Judge John
"You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they could and should do for themselves." - Abraham Lincoln
"I live, I lift, I ache, I am." - Dave Draper
"Moderation assures mediocrity -- nice, safe. Mediocrity is for the mediocre -- simple, okay. The intense rule; the mediocre follow." - Dave Draper
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CB
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Hey Judge,
I've never done Atkins but the cyclical low carb like Gironda or Metabolic with the carb up meal every 72 hours really works great for me anyway. Once I got fat adapted at maintenance calorie levels I was on my way.
CB
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The Judge
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3/8 Back Pre-Exhaust Super Set: Pulley Pullovers 90/15; 110/14; 130/12; 150/11 Lat Machine Pulldowns 125/14; 170/11; 185/7; 185/6 Hyperextensions 15/15/15/15 Good one today! Carbed up with oatmeal and protein powder for breakfast and then ate a Oh, Yeah bar right before the workout (it is a candy bar with some added protein - not great nutrition but fast acting and tastes damn good!) I added reps to just about every set across the board. My pecs are still sore from yesterday and now my lats feel like wings. Ahhhh - good pain. I had to skip the shrugs. My thumb cannot deal with holding the weights, even with straps. It has been nasty lately, so I gave it a break. Also, traps grow fast for me and I can skip them occasionally without a problem.
Judge John
"You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they could and should do for themselves." - Abraham Lincoln
"I live, I lift, I ache, I am." - Dave Draper
"Moderation assures mediocrity -- nice, safe. Mediocrity is for the mediocre -- simple, okay. The intense rule; the mediocre follow." - Dave Draper
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CB
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Love that oatmeal. Had to help pump up those lats too. Hope that thumb heals quick.
CB
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The Judge
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CB, I'm afraid outside of a miracle, the thumb will not heal. It is degenerated and the cartilege is gone and a bone spur has grown. All the supplements have not helped. Surgery is the only option and I will wait as long as possible to have that since the operation sounds nasty and I am not sure about the result. All these many years of heavy lifting has taken its toll. The body parts are literally wearing out.
Judge John
"You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they could and should do for themselves." - Abraham Lincoln
"I live, I lift, I ache, I am." - Dave Draper
"Moderation assures mediocrity -- nice, safe. Mediocrity is for the mediocre -- simple, okay. The intense rule; the mediocre follow." - Dave Draper
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The Judge
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3/10 Not a good one today. My asthma was bad in the gym today and my inhalor was old and I guess it didn't have any juice left. Anyway, my breathing limited my reps a little. I got light-headed a few times but still had a decent workout. Shoulders Pre-Exhaust Super Set: Dumbbell Laterals 20/12; 25/12; 30/10 Seated Dumbbell Presses 35/12; 40/7; 45/2 Rear Delt Flyes 20/12; 25/12; 25/11; 30/6 Arms Pre-Exhaust Super Set ALternate Dumbbell Curls 30/12; 35/12; 35/12 Close Grip Assisted Chins 100/10; 100/7; 100/6 Pre-Exhaust Super Set: Cable Pushdowns 130/15; 160/11; 170/8; 180/7 Cable Pressdowns 130/15; 160/11; 170/9; 180/7
Judge John
"You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they could and should do for themselves." - Abraham Lincoln
"I live, I lift, I ache, I am." - Dave Draper
"Moderation assures mediocrity -- nice, safe. Mediocrity is for the mediocre -- simple, okay. The intense rule; the mediocre follow." - Dave Draper
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Stingo
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I'd SURE LOVE to workout with you sometime!!! ;-))
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The Judge
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We will, Steve, we will! I am looking forward to that day.
Judge John
"You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they could and should do for themselves." - Abraham Lincoln
"I live, I lift, I ache, I am." - Dave Draper
"Moderation assures mediocrity -- nice, safe. Mediocrity is for the mediocre -- simple, okay. The intense rule; the mediocre follow." - Dave Draper
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Wicked Willie
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Me too, me too! Wicked
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The Judge
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Stingo, Wicked and me! All right!
Judge John
"You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they could and should do for themselves." - Abraham Lincoln
"I live, I lift, I ache, I am." - Dave Draper
"Moderation assures mediocrity -- nice, safe. Mediocrity is for the mediocre -- simple, okay. The intense rule; the mediocre follow." - Dave Draper
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Stingo
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Lions, Tigers and bears! Oh No!
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theVeep
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John: I'm sorry to read that your asthma kept you from a really good workout. But at least you worked through it the best you could. Is this asthma something you've dealt with all your life? Does it act up during certain seasons? Hang in there! Lou
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My asthma was bad in the gym today and my inhalor was old and I guess it didn't have any juice left. Anyway, my breathing limited my reps a little. I got light-headed a few times but still had a decent workout.
And look at all you did despite the limitations - NICE! Hey, some days are better than others. You are consistent, and that's the most important thing.
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Amazonblonde
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John... Take it easy and be careful....But I am sure you know your limitations:-) On another note..I have been mega dosing the glucos/chondr/MSM and it is working for the thumb!!!!I take a triple dose pill in the morning and then the effervesent joint connection that Laree sells on here at nite...the differnce is amazing so far!!!!Just a thought for you:-) AB
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The Judge
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Lou, My asthma started when I was around 40! I have been hospitalized twice but you deal with it. It is definitely worse during fall (the worse) and spring. This is my first spring in NC so I was hoping it would be better. We'll see. Lisa, thank you. Yes, we all have limitations - sickness, injuries, time, etc. We can use them as excuses or we can just deal with it. IOL members work through it. Lori, that is incredible news! I am so happy for you! I have been on joint supps for quite a few years and they have helped my knees but not my thumb. Please keep me informed about your progress. I take the standard 1500/1200 dosage with added MSM. Maybe I should increase it.
Judge John
"You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they could and should do for themselves." - Abraham Lincoln
"I live, I lift, I ache, I am." - Dave Draper
"Moderation assures mediocrity -- nice, safe. Mediocrity is for the mediocre -- simple, okay. The intense rule; the mediocre follow." - Dave Draper
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CB
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I'll spot for you 3. [grin]
CB
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The Judge
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CB - you're in!
Judge John
"You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they could and should do for themselves." - Abraham Lincoln
"I live, I lift, I ache, I am." - Dave Draper
"Moderation assures mediocrity -- nice, safe. Mediocrity is for the mediocre -- simple, okay. The intense rule; the mediocre follow." - Dave Draper
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The Judge
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3/11 Leg Extensions 135/12; 180/12; 210/12; 240/8 Lying Leg Curls 90/12; 100/12; 110/9; 115/7 Cybex Leg Press/Squat 270/12; 360/12; 450/12; 590/7 Seated Calf 90/20; 180/4 - calf cramped - had to stop Hanging Knee-Ups 25/25/25/25 Hammer Crunch Machine 70/12; 80/12; 80/12; 80/10 Used a new inhalor today and it helped. Calf cramped and it is hurting tonight. It may need a rest.
Judge John
"You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they could and should do for themselves." - Abraham Lincoln
"I live, I lift, I ache, I am." - Dave Draper
"Moderation assures mediocrity -- nice, safe. Mediocrity is for the mediocre -- simple, okay. The intense rule; the mediocre follow." - Dave Draper
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The Judge
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3/14 Chest Pre-Exhaust Super Set: Dumbbell FLyes 45/12; 55/12; 65/11; 65/9 Incline Dumbbell Presses 55/12; 65/12; 75/7; 75/5 Cable Crossovers 60/12; 70/12; 70/12; 85/7 I lost my new inhalor that I had in my gym bag. Damn! Asthma made it tougher than usual today. I probably left it in the gym on Friday. It often falls out os my pocket and I sometimes leave it on the floor. I still have another but I have to try to call the doc in NY for a new script so I can get more. Good workout today anyway. I got a couple of compliments from two trainers today and that pushed me through the breathing problems. Still not too old for compliments (heh, heh).
Judge John
"You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they could and should do for themselves." - Abraham Lincoln
"I live, I lift, I ache, I am." - Dave Draper
"Moderation assures mediocrity -- nice, safe. Mediocrity is for the mediocre -- simple, okay. The intense rule; the mediocre follow." - Dave Draper
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Good workout today anyway. I got a couple of compliments from two trainers today and that pushed me through the breathing problems. Still not too old for compliments (heh, heh).
That's for sure John! Hope you get your inhalers squared away soon... ;-))
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The Judge
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3/15 Back Pre-Exhaust Super Set: Pulley Pullovers 90/15; 115/14; 135/11; 155/10 Lat Machine Pulldowns 125/15; 170/12; 185/7; 185/6 Hyperextension 25/12; 25/12; 25/12; 25/12 No shrugs due to my thumb but my lats were PUMPED! Used another inhaler and breathing was better.
Judge John
"You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they could and should do for themselves." - Abraham Lincoln
"I live, I lift, I ache, I am." - Dave Draper
"Moderation assures mediocrity -- nice, safe. Mediocrity is for the mediocre -- simple, okay. The intense rule; the mediocre follow." - Dave Draper
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rvan
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Judge could you briefly describe pulley pullovers. I too use alot of pre-ex but am not familiar with that movement.
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The Judge
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Sure - you can use a tricep rope, although I use a small straight bar. Use a close overhand grip, if you use the straight bar. Face the pulley mcahine. Stand back so that there is tension on the cable. Keep your elbows either locked out or with a slight bend but do not change the angle as you bring the bar/rope down until the hands reach your thighs. It is vital not to change the bend in your elbows throughout the movement.
This works the lats without involving the biceps. Then the pulldowns use biceps to assist the lats after they are exhausted by the pullovers.
If you have any other questions, just PM me.
John
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The Judge
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3/17 Shoulders and Arms Pre-Exhaust Super Set: Dumbbell Laterals 20/12; 25/12; 30/12; 30/11 Seated Dumbbell Presses 35/12; 40/12; 45/10; 45/2 - felt a "pull" in my left tricep Rear Delt Flyes on Incline Bench 20/12; 25/12; 25/12; 30/7 Pre-Exhaust Super-Set: Alternate Dumbbell Curls 30/12; 35/12; 35/11 Close Grip Assisted Chins 100/11; 100/9; 100/7 Pre-Exhaust Super Set: Cable Pushdowns 130/15; 160/12; 170/8 Cable Pressdowns 130/15; 160/8; 170/6 Had to limit reps and sets on triceps due to the slight injury I felt when pressing. The upper tricep kept cramping. Wish I had someone to massage it. I am icing it right now. Hopefully, it will be back to normal in a day or two.
Judge John
"You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they could and should do for themselves." - Abraham Lincoln
"I live, I lift, I ache, I am." - Dave Draper
"Moderation assures mediocrity -- nice, safe. Mediocrity is for the mediocre -- simple, okay. The intense rule; the mediocre follow." - Dave Draper
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rvan
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Judge thanks for the description. I used to do a similar movement but I called them stiff arm pulldowns. Have you ever tried d.b. pullovers to pre-ex.
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The Judge
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Yes, but since I am doing cable work for the follow-up exercise, it is best to use the cable for the compound exercise. I might use DB pullovers with rowing movement as a free weight pre-exhaust super set.
Judge John
"You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they could and should do for themselves." - Abraham Lincoln
"I live, I lift, I ache, I am." - Dave Draper
"Moderation assures mediocrity -- nice, safe. Mediocrity is for the mediocre -- simple, okay. The intense rule; the mediocre follow." - Dave Draper
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