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Roger Clarvin
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01-18-21 01:38 PM - Post#906894    



"While competition in sports may be useful, it can complicate, endanger, or even abort an exercise program." Heavyhands page 25.

 
Old Miler
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Re: the late Dr. Leonard Schwartz on competition in exercise
01-18-21 02:56 PM - Post#906902    



  • Roger Clarvin Said:
"While competition in sports may be useful, it can complicate, endanger, or even abort an exercise program." Heavyhands page 25.





"While an exercise program for sports may be useful, it can complicate, endanger or even abort your sporting performance." Me.


Edited by Old Miler on 01-18-21 03:09 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
 
DanMartin
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Re: the late Dr. Leonard Schwartz on competition in exercise
01-18-21 04:02 PM - Post#906907    



  • Old Miler Said:
  • Roger Clarvin Said:
"While competition in sports may be useful, it can complicate, endanger, or even abort an exercise program." Heavyhands page 25.





"While an exercise program for sports may be useful, it can complicate, endanger or even abort your sporting performance." Me.




Brilliant!

Mark it Zero.


 
Matt_T
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Re: the late Dr. Leonard Schwartz on competition in exercise
01-18-21 04:10 PM - Post#906908    



  • Old Miler Said:
  • Roger Clarvin Said:
"While competition in sports may be useful, it can complicate, endanger, or even abort an exercise program." Heavyhands page 25.





"While an exercise program for sports may be useful, it can complicate, endanger or even abort your sporting performance." Me.




Applause
 
Old Miler
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Re: the late Dr. Leonard Schwartz on competition in exercise
01-18-21 04:16 PM - Post#906909    



It does kind of come down to what Kyle touched on in the other thread (which is also one of life's fundamental questions): which matters more to you, life or sports? My brain says "life", but my heart says "sports", and I know I am not alone.
 
Dan John
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01-18-21 06:55 PM - Post#906921    



I think we can blend a few things into a nice life.
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Make a Difference.
Live. Love. Laugh.
Balance work, rest, play and pray (enjoy beauty and solitude)
Sleep soundly. Drink Water. Eat veggies and protein. Walk.
Wear your seat belt. Don’t smoke. Floss your teeth.
Put weights overhead. Pick weights off the floor. Carry weights.
Reread great books. Say thank you


 
Roger Clarvin
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Re: the late Dr. Leonard Schwartz on competition in exercise
01-18-21 09:44 PM - Post#906933    



  • Roger Clarvin Said:
"While competition in sports may be useful, it can complicate, endanger, or even abort an exercise program." Heavyhands page 25.





Just to be clear, the antecedent of “it” in this sentence is “competition,” not “competition in sports.” He is cautioning against making your training a competitive event, not against competing in sports. Posted it because it made me think of CrossFit. I think I obscured the meaning by pulling the sentence out of context.
 
Kyle Aaron
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Re: the late Dr. Leonard Schwartz on competition in exercise
01-18-21 11:26 PM - Post#906934    



  • Old Miler Said:
My brain says "life", but my heart says "sports", and I know I am not alone.


As DJ said, we don't have to make one choice, ever. We can do a bit of both. Our lives are long enough to do a bunch of stuff.

What I would observe is that when people don't compete, they only go so far. I've yet to see someone lift or run 50+% the world record without ever having competed. The person who never competes rarely seems to go past what they achieved (or could have achieved with competent coaching and a good community) in their first 3-6 months.

It's the same as in education. To achieve excellence you need an exam day.
Athletic Club East
Strength in numbers




Edited by Kyle Aaron on 01-18-21 11:27 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
 
Dan John
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01-19-21 09:34 AM - Post#906944    



"It's the same as in education. To achieve excellence you need an exam day."

I can only add my applause.
Daniel John
Just handing down what I was handed down...


Make a Difference.
Live. Love. Laugh.
Balance work, rest, play and pray (enjoy beauty and solitude)
Sleep soundly. Drink Water. Eat veggies and protein. Walk.
Wear your seat belt. Don’t smoke. Floss your teeth.
Put weights overhead. Pick weights off the floor. Carry weights.
Reread great books. Say thank you


 
Browser
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the late Dr. Leonard Schwartz on competition in exercise
01-19-21 02:35 PM - Post#906954    



The pandemic and cessation of meets has proven that I need an 'exam date' to train really hard. I can't get to that next gear without knowing I have to be on a platform in front of three judges, dozens of other lifters, and an audience in a few weeks.
"The trouble about always trying to preserve the health of the body is that it is so difficult to do without destroying the health of the mind."~GK Chesterton




Edited by Browser on 01-19-21 07:21 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
 
Matt_T
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01-19-21 05:30 PM - Post#906956    



I've got an implacable enemy I need to be on my best against every day. Father Time.
 
Andy Mitchell
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the late Dr. Leonard Schwartz on competition in exercise
01-19-21 08:21 PM - Post#906960    



Very good
But for me when I work out it has always been just me against me I like it better when the place is quite and I’m alone I workout to be physically ready to be self responsible in life for me every workout is an (if we’re going to use metaphors) exam my report card is a Doctor handing me a blood test and CT artery scan with zero trace of calcium build up, low BP.

To me- “the workout” the meaning of it has been lost.
Nice legs-shame about the face




Edited by Andy Mitchell on 01-19-21 08:25 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
 
Sean S
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01-20-21 01:38 PM - Post#906982    



This topic seems to get at the fundamental question of whether you live to train or train to live.
Most of us end up doing both at various times of our lives. We just have to be honest with ourselves about which we are doing and acknowledge the trade offs that come along with it.
For me training to live is a welcome psychological break after really living to train for years. Feeling less beat up and sore and not worrying about whether I can find proper workout equipment on vacation is very freeing.
 
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