05-05-10 02:40 PM - Post#622602    

• glennpendlay Said:

Thanks for joining us, Glenn. We're excited and honored to have you onboard.

A number of us here are masters lifters (one or two OL'ers and a dozen or so powerlifters), who also do some bodybuilding. We want to remain as strong and muscular as we can for as long as we can. Based on what you've said above, I know you can help us improve our longevity. So, I hope you don't mind if we pick your brain. Let me start:

Do you have a template you'd be willing to share, or could you show us an example of the weekly routines you've developed for your masters lifters?

Also, I don't understand how one works with "as much intensity as [he] can safely manage" without "pushing too hard". Do you recommend not going to failure, even with heavy singles? Do you keep your lifters' poundages at less than 90% 1RM, even when peaking for a meet?

Be strong. Be in shape. Be a man among men, regardless of your age or circumstances.

05-05-10 03:58 PM - Post#622614    

I don't know if this post is out of place here, but

"as much intensity as they can safely manage, not pushing too hard"

sounds exactly like what I have found in following the charts from Gary's Big Bench routine I began using a month ago........

"Strict form ain't for sissies." -Plateloader

Re: Glenn Pendlay's Recommendations For Lifters Over 40
05-05-10 04:06 PM - Post#622618    

Let me go ahead and just give you a real world example of an older lifter, one, by the way, that I am trying to get to come to your Bash with me, Mary McGregor.

Mary started training at age 55, having never done anything athletic in her life. She did general training for a few months, but was watching the younger OLers all the time and thought it looked fun. She asked if she could do it, I thought so, so she began to train for OL. It was a bit of a struggle, and having never coached anyone in her particular position (a beginner at that age) I had to fail as a coach to her a number of times before I learned what worked. I will spare you the details of all the things that didnt work, and just go straight to what did. 2 times per week, sometimes 3 for a couple of weeks right before a meet, Mary will go up to about as much as she can comfortably do on both the snatch and clean and jerk. This means what can be done with good crisp form and very little chance of a miss. We try to get 4-5 good snatches in the "working range", which for Mary is about 38kg to 42kg. Her best in competition is 44kg at 61 years old. Then we try to get 2-3 clean and jerks in the "working range", which for her is 55kg to 60kg. Her best clean and jerk is 63kg, done at 61 years old.

This is it, this is her total amount of work in the Olympic lifts. She adds to this 2-3 general fitness workouts per week, sometimes on her own in her garage with kettlebells, sometimes with a personal trainer (friend of mine and also an Olympid lifter) or simply doing the machine circuit they have set up at the YMCA. She usually does no squatting, none at all.

Now, at previous times, she had squatted, and worked fairly hard at it... But I eventually learned that it took more out of her than it gave her, and since her lifts werent held back by leg strength, it wasnt helping anything to subject her nearly 60 year old body to squats. At previous times, we did more volume on the Olympic lifts, but, it just made her tired and created aches and pains. I could go on and on but you get the picture.

Now this brief training program that in reality focuses first on general fitness and health, and second on getting some good practice at the movements of OL fairly often has produced her best results, a 43kg snatch and a 63kg clean and jerk at 61 years old to not only win the world masters championship last year in Greece, but also to set all new world records in her age group, and also take best lifter for her age group.

I should also add that Mary has very, very good technique, she is a full squat snatcher and a full squat cleaner, and has form as good as the young Olympic hopefulls that I also coach. I have heard Caleb Ward, a 19 year old who just broke the Junior American record clean and jerk with a 203kg lift and many consider to have the best form they have ever seen, tell Mary that he wished his positions were as good as hers. I believe that one of the reasons this is so is that she doesnt hurt from overwork. It took me about 3 years to get her technique right, so she was about 58-59 before she really did the lifts well. But now she is solid and remains so.

The things I consider to be the most important to Mary keeping her total where it is or improving it in order are.

1) Keep doing some aerobic type work for general health. My favorite things for her to do are walks which if she does them are early in the morning, and rowing on a C2 rower, which if she does that are part of her personal training sessions. At over 60, maintaining health is the base upon which any sports results are based, she wont be lifting as well or as much or for as long unless she maintains a high degree of overall health.

2) Keeping up with the general strength workouts... including some KB work, the machine circuits done at the YMCA, and the general "bodybuilding" type stuff she does as part of her personal training. She isnt straining overly hard at any of this, but it keeps her overall strong and healthy, and is all done with a premium of no joint stress and getting exercise without creating any injuries or sore spots.

3) Continueing to practice her form on the Olympic lifts fairly often.

4)Maintain a healthy diet.

Now these things are all specific to Mary. Another 60 year old might be different, might be able to stand more specific training, or less. i would, and do, train a 45 year old differently. I would train a 45 year old that is in great health with no injuries very differently than a 45 year old who was fat and out of shape and had a body that wouldnt stand a lot.

But hopefully this specific example, while probably not a blueprint of how any of you should do things, can serve as an example of how to approach a situation that is not exactly normal, and still produce good results even with the less than ideal situation of a 55 year old who has never exercised in her life.

I would like to add that Mary's perserverence and eventually great achievements in sport inspired her granddaughter to take up the same sport, OL, at age 7. She is now an 11 year old girl who snatches 54kg and clean and jerks 63kg, with technique that is maybe even a little better than her grandmother!

I hope this helps someone, I love inspiring stories like this and am lucky to count myself as a friend of a wonderful family like that.

glenn

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05-05-10 04:28 PM - Post#622627    

One more specific example. A template, as requested, is hard for me here, because "lifters over 40" is such a broad topic, but I will try to get some broad recomendations down after this second example...

Diran Lancaster played football for texas tech in college. He clean and jerked 300lbs while doing so. I think he was defensive backfield. Then he got married, became a chiropracter, got out of shape, not neccessarily in that order.

At age 41 or 42, he decided he wanted his son, around 11 at the time, to start OL and he brout him to me. Within 3 or 4 workouts, Diran couldnt stand to just watch anymore, he wanted to get back into it.

First, the result... before the age of 45 Diran had clean and jerked more than he had done as a 21 year old D1 football player and competitive OLer. This was done at the same bodyweight roughly, but more than 20 years later, and after almost 20 years of relative inactivity.

Now, the program we eventually found worked best for Diran is this, and keep in mind it took a couple of years to figure this out.

Work on the Olympic lifts 1 or 2 times per week, switching to 3 times per week for 2-3 weeks before a meet. During these workouts, going all the way to max, I mean going till you miss, then stopping or else ending with a couple of light crisp lifts.

Squatting in 2 seperate workouts per week. And squatting pretty hard. Squats dont hurt Diran, dont seem to create wear and tear, and, if they dont hurt you or take too much out of you, a stronger squat always helps.

Nothing else besides this, other than his active lifestyle. Diran is a chiropracter, so he is on his feet all day. He leads an active lifestyle, he coaches various sports that his two sons play. He takes multiple ski trips each year. He does lots of fun and active activities. His wife is a nutritionist and a good one, so he has no choice but to eat very well. So he is in good overall health and good condition, and we dont need to address that in our training.

I would also like to add that Diran is a great guy, great dad, and keeps his OL hobby in perspecive. His first priorities are to be a good Christian husband and dad. Consider his ability to clean and jerk at age 45 more than he did as a college athlete, in spite of a wife, kids, and challenging job. Regardless of what number it is, this is awesome.

glenn

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Glenn Pendlay's Recommendations For Lifters Over 40
05-05-10 04:40 PM - Post#622629    

Thanks for the quick response and inspiring stories, Glenn.

Mary's quite a gal. Amazing that she can do her work sets at between 85% and 95% with "very little chance of a miss" and depends on staying healthy and keeping good form without any specific assistance exercises (no squats!!!) to keep her at the top of the heap.

Diran is equally inspiring and someone most of the guys here can relate to, because we too are trying to lift at least as well as we did when we were younger. I'm semi-retired, but many of the others are still juggling job, family, and their passion for iron, just like he is.

I can't get over Diran making max efforts every OL workout without burning out his CNS. I know if I tried to do the same with the powerlifts, especially deadlifts, I'd fry mine. Then again, he's almost twenty years younger than I...and I follow my primary lifts with several assistance and bodybuilding movements, whereas he just does squats on another day, and you said those don't take that much out of him. Something to think about.

Anxiously awaiting your "broad recommendations".

Be strong. Be in shape. Be a man among men, regardless of your age or circumstances.

05-05-10 04:40 PM - Post#622630    

This stuff is pure gold, thanks for posting Glenn!

The most important test a lifter has to pass is the test of time. -Jon Cole

Glenn Pendlay's Recommendations For Lifters Over 40
05-05-10 04:59 PM - Post#622633    

• glenn Said:

I've read through your guys routines and this seems to be a pretty consistent thread to work up to max. Some questions I'd like to ask on this approach.

Do you do your work up to max all on singles?
Do I do multiple lifts at the same weight?
Do you split workouts snatch in one and the other c&j?
Are the squats done on non o-lifting days?

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Re: Glenn Pendlay's Recommendations For Lifters Over 40
05-05-10 06:19 PM - Post#622646    

• glennpendlay Said:

Wow! I didn't know that part! Wonderful!

Re: Glenn Pendlay's Recommendations For Lifters Over 40
05-05-10 06:25 PM - Post#622647    

• glennpendlay Said:

Oh, and this part is remarkable, too: CARDIO.

One by one, we're coming back full circle. Yes, we're supposed to do cardio again.

Re: Glenn Pendlay's Recommendations For Lifters Over 40
05-05-10 06:30 PM - Post#622648    

• Laree Said:

Again?

jej

Re: Glenn Pendlay's Recommendations For Lifters Over 40
05-05-10 06:53 PM - Post#622649    

• Laree Said:

Laree - CARDIO - really? Have you cleared this idea with Dave?

P.S. Glenn - great stuff - we are honored to have you "coach" us for the OCT Bash! Can't wait!!

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05-05-10 06:54 PM - Post#622650    

• glennpendlay Said:

Heck, maybe it's BECAUSE of her. :~)

This is fascinating stuff. Most people don't realize how variable our capacity for training is, especially as we get older. For some of us, the margins are tight; others can get away with a lot. If we can get our heads around that and stop comparing ourselves with others, we'll get a lot farther in our training.

05-05-10 07:20 PM - Post#622651    

Oooohhhh, this is gonna be another great Bash!

Thanks Glenn!

Above all else, guard your heart, for it is the wellspring of life. Prov 4:23 "I'm not a doctor just someone that gets injured a lot." irondawg "Confidence - the absence of doubt - is a distillation of hope, faith and knowing." Dave Draper, BISS, page 65 "Few things are more fulfilling than personal progress." Dave Draper, newsletter of 4/2/09 100 Day Burpee Challenge 08 Survivor squatting makes me sleepy

05-05-10 07:52 PM - Post#622656    

• Laree Said:

That is so difficult for me. I look at a great lifter and think, "All I have to do is follow his training program and I'll be in PR City", without regard for my personal abilities and training needs. So, I have this notebook filled with the preferred routines of a dozen greats...and as I was just telling Byron, every one of them is different. Needless to say, I've done a lot of wheel spinning.

Be strong. Be in shape. Be a man among men, regardless of your age or circumstances.

Re: Glenn Pendlay's Recommendations For Lifters Over 40
05-06-10 01:42 AM - Post#622692    

• AAnnunz Said:

On any given day, Mary can take 2kg off the best snatch that she is capable of at that time, or 4-5 kg off the best clean and jerk she is capable at that time, and do it for 5 singles with a very, very, very small chance of missing. She is very technically good at the lifts and very consistent.

And yes, Diran can maybe max more than many his age. But he is a good athlete, otherwise he wouldnt have been a D1 football player. So maybe he is capable of things that some guys his age arent, but the idea is to do what you can... and he can do this.

Now as to those broad recomendations about training for those who are 40 and above... Been thinking about this for a few hours now. Here they are.

1) Fit your training around your life, not the other way around. If you dont do this, you will have lots of frustration and might not continue to train your whole life. You probably have all or some combination of a spouse, kids, a job, and a mortgage, lol. Honestly, is 5lbs more on your bench press or snatch important enough to neglect any of these? Will you still be training 20 years from now if you act like it is?

One of the reasons that Mary had been able to improve consistently in almost every competition for 6 years is that she has been able to CUT BACK HER TRAINING when her life demanded it, and not let it get her mentally irregular. I made it clear to her from the start, that if she could get only ONE Olympic session in a given week, and only ONE general fitness session in, I was still happy. So its not all or nothing, never has been in her head. When the kids and grandkids visit, and she only trains with me on Wednesday, and only has time for a couple of 10 minute KB sessions in the garage outside of that, we still call it a good week. When she goes and visits the kids, and there are no OL facilities nearby, well, 2 sessions at the local globo gym having fun on all the new machines she has never used before and we are both happy. Because her best numbers in the snatch and clean and jerk are always no more than a couple of weeks away if she chooses to enter a meet, and progress is never more than a couple of months away if life allows this busy grandma to have a time of steady training. I believe this lack of an all or nothing attitude is key for training longevity, and try to instill it in any person that I coach that is at an age where they are now training for themselves and as a hobby and aid to good health, not trying to make an Olympic team.

2) Be honest about what you are trying to do. Say your 55 years old and have never up to this point been a top level athlete... but now you are trying to follow the program that the latest phenom at Westside is using, or the program that the Greek team used in preparation for the 2000 Olympic games... who are you trying to kid, and what are you trying to prove. This wont end in success!

3) Make good health and staying injury free the top priority. This really is the only way for the older athlete to get their best performance. The older you are, the easier it is to get both overuse and tramatic injury, and the harder it is to heal from either. So you really have to look at things from a risk/reward standpoint. How important is this thing you want to do? How badly do you want to do it? Weigh this against how likely it is to injure you or even to just create aches and pains if you do it at the intensity that you want to? Dont look at these questions through rose colored glasses, be honest with yourself.

4) And finally, and least important IMO, is the actual training program. For the older athlete, and the very young also, by the way, I favor the following: practice the skills of your sport regularly but not too regularly, hard but not too hard... and add to that a general fitness program to get yourself, or keep yourself, in good overall condition. Many of you might know that I am an advocate of the Bulgarian program, and my better guys and gals train 9-15 times a week maxing out almost every workout, and do little except to snatch, clean and jerk, and squat, and I advise that outside of this grueling schedule, one should never stand when you can sit, or sit when you can lay down. But this is when you are in the middle. This is for most, a successful strategy for maybe a 5-10 year period of their career, usually in the late teenage years and the 20's. For those younger and not ready for it, this routine would lead to failure. For those that have passed this glorious time in an athletic career, it will also lead to failure.

And I guess to end, here are a couple of questions that I have asked people who are 50 or 60 or so and have asked my advice about training. First one, is your spouse, your kids, or your grandkids, whichever one applies, happy that you are training? Or do you suppose they secretly wish you would quit so you could cincentrate more on ohter parts of life?

And second, do you wake up in the morning feeling better than you would if you did nothing? Or do you wake up feeling worse?

I think you know the answers that I would consider best for those questions, lol...

Anyway, these are the things that I think are most important for the older athlete. I am not sure if these are the things that you were looking for or expecting. But if I am training a 50 year old, this is how I would approach it and not just for lifestyle and health reasons, that is important but also because I honestly think that having priorities in this order will get the give you a better performance at a set date 10 years down the road than a different set of priorities. That may, IMO, be the best advice ever for a 50 year old athlete, train for an imaginary meet to take place on your 65th birthday. Make this imaginary competition of higher importance than any competition that takes place in the next year or two.

glenn

Pendlay.com

Re: Glenn Pendlay's Recommendations For Lifters Over 40
05-06-10 08:39 AM - Post#622707    

• glennpendlay Said:

Nice, a good common sense approach to exercising. I've been lifting for a little over 35 years. I've never competed in BB, PL, or OL and have held blue collar jobs my whole life. Once i hit my forties I had to stop punishing myself and balance work and lifting.

I've had numerous breaks over the years mostly due to illness, but a few times due to the nature of my work (swordfishing) or just too many days and hours (carpentry)

I've learned how to maintain during the spring and fall when I spend most of my free time fishing.

I don't offer training advice because I'm not well read in the scriptures, like Rippetoe, Dan John, Pavel and all the rest, though I have recommended Pavels grease the groove workouts to people who are trying to increase their pull ups, only because I have tried it myself and have had pretty good results.

Frankly number four might well be my favorite as people get too hung up on what's best, without weighing all the factors and coming up with a routine that's best for them. In most cases best is something that they will DO, not talk about. Most get bogged down with too much info and just get constipated.

What you wrote is pretty much what a few others wrote about in the other thread

Jesseisrael said:
Ray, maybe I am off target but I think that you should just have fun. Do what you want, when you want and enjoy it.

and Wicked Willie said
Ask yourself a few questions:

Does my training make me feel better?
Do I enjoy and look forward to my training sessions?
Do I have enough energy for daily activities?
Is it relatively easy to fit training into my lifestyle?

Unfortunately I won't be at the bash as it's right in the middle of my fishing season. I like your approach, honest and straight forward.

cheers

steve

05-06-10 09:48 AM - Post#622719    

Great stuff, Glenn! I like it.

Re: Glenn Pendlay's Recommendations For Lifters Over 40
05-06-10 10:37 AM - Post#622726    

• glennpendlay Said:

I guess if I can convince myself to view those meets in the near future as baby steps toward becoming a world champ at 80, I would work at a more reasonable, joint-preserving pace. Not a bad way of looking at things.

Thank you so much, Glenn. I'll be pondering your recommendations and especially those concluding words for the rest of the day.

Be strong. Be in shape. Be a man among men, regardless of your age or circumstances.

05-06-10 10:47 AM - Post#622727    

If you think about it, Dan John's Mantra that the "body is one piece" is more profound than most of us realize.

Our training is not done in isolation.

Mark it Zero.

Re: Glenn Pendlay's Recommendations For Lifters Over 40
05-06-10 02:03 PM - Post#622771    

• jmac Said:

Glenn, I wanted to pull this back to the bottom so I could get your responses to these questions.

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Re: Glenn Pendlay's Recommendations For Lifters Over 40
05-06-10 03:43 PM - Post#622790    

• jmac Said:

Yes, we usually work to max with singles only, except with the really light weights. My guys might take several reps with 50, 70, or 90kg, just to warm up. Some require more warmups than others. But once we get weight on the bar, its normal to just do singles going up.

A good example of a snatch workout for Jon North, 94kg lifter who has a best snatch of 150kg and is on this years Pan-Am team might be the workout he did this last saturday. It was as follows, 50 for 2, 70 for 2, 90 for 1, 110 for 1, 130 for 1, 140 for 1, 142 miss, 142 for 1, 145 for 1, 147 miss, 147 miss, 120 for 2, 125 for 2, 130 for 2, 130 for 2. This is a workout he does 6-7 times per week, and he also does another 2 workouts per week that are essentially the same only substituting powersnatch. Keep in mind that this would be the snatch portion of the workout only, in the same workout he would also do clean and jerk in a similar manner, then squat or front squat. The actual weights accomplished depend on the day and how well he does that day.

My younger lifters (and some older ones) do series of lifts with the same weight, for example 10 singles with a set weight. My top guys dont do this.

No, snatch and clean and jerk are both done every workout.

We dont have any workouts where we dont do the lifts, so yes, squats are done on these same days and in the same workouts.

We train 2 times on Monday, wednesday, and friday, and once per day on tuesday, thursday, and saturday. In each of these workouts snatching to maximum, clean and jerking to maximum, and some form of squatting are dong. 2 of these 9 workouts powersnatch and powerclean are substituted for the full lifts, but we still go to maximum. Sometimes on Saturday, I let the guys substitute pulls for the lifts, but not all the time.

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Edited by glennpendlay on 05-06-10 03:47 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

05-06-10 10:08 PM - Post#622837    

Glenn, thanks for taking the time to answer these questions I really appreciate it. You have a great team going there and I got to see Caleb lift at the Texas state meet in 09 and watch videos of the guys now and again. Your doing some very good work for the sport.

As an almost 49 year old master that just started this about 18 months ago you've given me some real good things to think about and try in my approach to training. I like the idea of working up to the singles and hitting a daily max. Part of what I've thought for a bit is that I need to do more work toward my max, with the heavier, well for me, weights so that I'm getting the technique worked heavier. Currently my routine is written by Oleg so your probably familiar with the style of the routine that I've been running. This would be an interesting departure for me and I'm going to give it some serious thought.

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05-06-10 10:11 PM - Post#622838    

I kdont know much about Oleg. But much of what I do know is good. So, if you can have contact with him, that is good.

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05-06-10 10:20 PM - Post#622840    

Been lifting with him since I started, he's a good guy and I've learned a lot.

-- JMac's Web Design

05-07-10 09:20 AM - Post#622903    

Copied from another thread...

• glennpendlay Said:

05-07-10 10:20 AM - Post#622916    

Can't begin to say how much I enjoyed this thread...and how much I am already regretting not being able to attend the bash....

Great stuff all the way around.

"Strict form ain't for sissies." -Plateloader

Glenn Pendlay's Recommendations For Lifters Over 40
05-07-10 01:19 PM - Post#622948    

Glenn is absolutely correct - nearly every lifter I know is looking for the next magic supplement to take them to the next level.

However, when I inquire about their daily habits/routines, nearly all of them don't put recovery at the top of their priority list.

Maybe it's too simple - stick to a sensible eating plan, take a multi-vitamin, include fish oil and good fats, and get plenty of sleep.

Combine them with a solid training regimen and you're in business.

Recently, I've made a concerted effort to get more rest - the TV now stays off at night and I simply go to bed earlier. I've added an average of 90 minutes to my nightly sleep total - now I'm getting just over 8 hrs and I'm waking up naturally w/ no alarm. (My wife says there's nothing "natural" about getting up at 4AM to train, but I love it).

I'm happy to report I feel 20 years younger and seeing a lot of progress in the gym (and at work).

Red meat, lots of sleep, and an effective eating plan - this is the true path to a long, healthy life. Again, the old timers were right.

I'd advise lifters who want to make progress to just skip the trip to GNC and take a nap instead - you'd be better rested and have enough cash in your pocket for natural food.

Iron is good.........

Re: Glenn Pendlay's Recommendations For Lifters Over 40
05-07-10 04:05 PM - Post#622985    

• glennpendlay Said:

• Quoting:

Ya see, this is the tricky part....the part I've been trying to figure out, and it doesn't seem to be a problem for most of you here. Guess I'm just a big dummy. Oh, but you all knew that!

Winded, but not pooped!

Re: Glenn Pendlay's Recommendations For Lifters Over 40
05-07-10 04:41 PM - Post#622991    

• RAYME Said:

I don't how it happened, but I wrote this post before I read all the previous good stuff. Disregard this post.

Winded, but not pooped!

Re: Glenn Pendlay's Recommendations For Lifters Over 40
05-07-10 05:21 PM - Post#622998    

• IronGuy Said:

I am pretty sure that good food is the answer, and not pills. In fact, if a guy ate only grass fed beef (same omega-3 to omega-6 ratio as salmon) you may not even need the fish oil. And if you ate enough eggs and meat and veggies, even the multi-vitamin might not be neccessary.

I know this is hard to do, harder than taking pills. Heck right now i am sitting in the Pheonix airport on a 3 hour layover, on my way to florida to do 2 seminars this weekend, one tomorrow and another one 100 miles away on Sunday. I just had lunch in the airport, to be honest it was a "Big Blue Burrito" and a beer. Not ideal, but what do you do in an airport? Likewise, it will be hard for me to eat well the next two days. such is life. Such is the reason a multivitamin and fish oil is needed.

I have noticed a LOT of effect of diet on recovery with the people i have coached over the years. Get a 17 year old kid to really eat well, and its amazing what they can do. Justin Brimhall is a good example of this. Best diet of anyone I have ever coached, and no coincidence, handled the highest workload of anyone I ever coached. As much as 21 workouts a week, all to maximum. With no soreness, and no dropping off of performance due to accumulated fatigue. And at age 16, weighing 72 kilos, he snatched 130kg, cleaned 160kg, overhead squatted 170kg, and jerked 170kg off the rack for a double. Good example of someone who was a good athlete but definately helped by diet and rest. His mother was Turkish, and raised his family with what I would consider an EXCELLENT diet.

My basic observation is that lots of fish oil and a perfect diet and rest plan just about doubles or triples the workload that the average person can do with normal diet and normal sleep.

And by the way, the magnesium supplement I talked about earlier is called "natural calm". I dont know where to get it or how it compares to other similar products. I do know you can get it from Dr. Lancaster and I would be happy to give out his number to anyone who wanted it over PM. But im sure its available elsewhere.

glenn

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Re: Glenn Pendlay's Recommendations For Lifters Over 40
05-08-10 10:02 AM - Post#623086    

• glennpendlay Said:

Now, there's an incentive to do things right!

Be strong. Be in shape. Be a man among men, regardless of your age or circumstances.

05-08-10 05:29 PM - Post#623135    

Wow, what a thread. Thanks Glenn. See you in October.

05-09-10 04:38 AM - Post#623178    

• Laree Said:

Boy ain't that the truth!

If you always do, what you always did, you'll always get, what you always got.

Glenn Pendlay's Recommendations For Lifters Over 40
05-11-10 09:30 AM - Post#623435    

• Old Biker Mark Said:

Not sure about that, many need it to keep going and working ("compitition comes to mind") hard at it...

But for most of us it is just a lifestyle help and if you do compare, you are just going to get very frustrated IMHO...

One thing that I have noticed...Workout hard and eat correct etc. you still need rest and from what I have read GH builds muscle while you sleep...So that needs to be upped also...

It is a sad situation that the sleeping thing is not discussed much... Especially as you get older, you are going to sleep more, especially if you workout, it is a given...

If you are family oriented, work for a living and workout to compete...LOL

This idea that has been planted about a few good winks at night, is bunk!!! IMHO

GAB

"I live, I lift, I ache, I am." - "I don't mean to be rude, but...junk is for jerks" "No pain, no gain' isn’t a nursery rhyme, and 'only the strong survive" ...Etc... Had to put in this quote... Current Quote "Eat better, train harder, be tougher, think surer and rest morer." ~ Draper Dave Draper **** Age 73 Semper Fi... GAB

Re: Glenn Pendlay's Recommendations For Lifters Over 40
05-12-10 10:46 AM - Post#623619    

Naps are necessary Thought I had a good idea!!!

The muscle that is showing up on me of late is coming from some location I have a feeling...

68 or not I am growing muscle, diet is good hormones need a tweek me thinks...
T to the rescue I have read...Best GH going!!!
Maybe the fat that is getting consumed has it captured???

I have read that is where body hides things...Hmmm

Australia is on the leading edge of tech I have read...

Edit:
Laree, I deleted...

"I live, I lift, I ache, I am." - "I don't mean to be rude, but...junk is for jerks" "No pain, no gain' isn’t a nursery rhyme, and 'only the strong survive" ...Etc... Had to put in this quote... Current Quote "Eat better, train harder, be tougher, think surer and rest morer." ~ Draper Dave Draper **** Age 73 Semper Fi... GAB

Edited by Gabster on 05-12-10 01:34 PM. Reason for edit: deleted some info

05-12-10 11:32 AM - Post#623634    

I found a Q&A with John Broz that some of you may find interesting to read through. From what I see he and Glenn train their athletes in a similar manner.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=122395951

-- JMac's Web Design

05-12-10 01:02 PM - Post#623659    

I'd sure hate to mess up this great thread with a conversation on some emailed GH ideas. Do you think we could refrain from going too far off-target just this once? I'd like to keep this as a nice archive thread.

05-13-10 04:16 PM - Post#623851    

This thread got hit...
Anything you feel is inappropreate of mine Laree, feel free to delete...
Won't hurt my feelings...Al is a tender sort though...

Regards,
Gary

"I live, I lift, I ache, I am." - "I don't mean to be rude, but...junk is for jerks" "No pain, no gain' isn’t a nursery rhyme, and 'only the strong survive" ...Etc... Had to put in this quote... Current Quote "Eat better, train harder, be tougher, think surer and rest morer." ~ Draper Dave Draper **** Age 73 Semper Fi... GAB

Re: Glenn Pendlay's Recommendations For Lifters Over 40
05-13-10 10:53 PM - Post#623888    

• Laree Said:

Cardio? It hurts my liver.

"Fat, drunk, and stupid, is no way to go through life son." - Dean Wurmer, Faber College

Re: Glenn Pendlay's Recommendations For Lifters Over 40
05-15-10 12:20 AM - Post#624003    

• tanska Said:

Can I qualify my "cardio" recomendations a little? What I was talking about was more ACTIVITY than cardio... though I have nothing against cardio. I mentioned in my description of Diran's training that he coaches various sports his sons play, is on his feet all day as a chiropracter, takes lots of ski trips, etc. Compared to Mary, who sits on her behind all day behind a desk at work, and has no real activity in her regular lifestyle. So I want her out walking, or rowing, or simply being active, and cause its not part of her refular life, it has to be part of her TRAINING. Diran on the other hand, is active. So I dont worry about it.

Does this make sense or am I confusing the issue?

glenn

Pendlay.com

Re: Glenn Pendlay's Recommendations For Lifters Over 40
05-15-10 06:17 AM - Post#624010    

This is just one amazing thread!

I have read everything written here with extreme joy.

IronOnline = best

05-15-10 09:41 AM - Post#624014    

It makes sense to me...Being very active most of my life...
After I sold all my horses (14 at one time) and quit construction work, I did not do the cardio I was use to...
I maintained the horse location mucking stalls everyday, hauling hay etc...
Riding them, taking them out, (young uns) moving them around...

Had a couple of breeding stallions, numerous mares, colts and fillies, busy guy...

Funny about that, many folks are pretty heavy in the horse world, they hire others to do, what I did
Now I workout, walk, read and learned to type LOL...

Regards,
Gary

"I live, I lift, I ache, I am." - "I don't mean to be rude, but...junk is for jerks" "No pain, no gain' isn’t a nursery rhyme, and 'only the strong survive" ...Etc... Had to put in this quote... Current Quote "Eat better, train harder, be tougher, think surer and rest morer." ~ Draper Dave Draper **** Age 73 Semper Fi... GAB

06-09-10 09:47 AM - Post#628692    

• Old Biker Mark Said:

I agree with Laree. That's my biggest problem! Well, one of the biggest.

Winded, but not pooped!

01-04-14 09:04 PM - Post#791203    

Reading through this thread has been great.

01-15-14 10:15 AM - Post#792074    

• Brandell Said:

No kidding. Just a wealth of information here.

The more I eat and the heavier I train, the better my genetics get. If you're not paraplegic and not squatting, please kick your own ass for me." "Do you really think that the reason most guys don't have big arms is purely because of a lack of doing curls?" --Alwyn Cosgrove "There is only one gram of carbs in STFD and no carbs at all in STFU." --Byron Chandler "Use meaningful loads to achieve results." --Big Vic http://www.stoneagefitnessconcepts.com