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Lifting helps my running, it strengthens my muscles in a way running doesn't. Running (esp wind sprints) helps my lifting. My lungs used to give out before my legs when doing squats and lunges, now I can breathe well enough to push my leg muscles harder. I found it easier to see and track cv improvements through running/biking than through circuit-type lifting. Both of these forms of training have improved the quality of the other things in life that I find enjoyable (riding my horse, hiking & climbing) and they help make day to day activities easier (getting out of bed, hauling trash, all that fun stuff). For me, a mix of lifting and cardio is the way to get where I'm going.
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Wow Laree, Better check the bandwidth usage as this post is rocking with the mere small chance that our GURU Dave could...ooops...struggle..BE WRONG. Me? Im with Dave (Sorry Laree) I walk on that machine or ride a bike and go crazy, I would prefer to Superset, minimum rest between sets, get the old heart going at a significant rate of knots that to me is Cardio. But I have considered Aerobics as I would be the only bloke in a group of 200 very cute Chinese Women! On second thoughts? No as I would be a No Fly Zone with Mrs.Aussieinasia
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If you think about it you can go way, way into this one.
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The key is shifting around between several compound movements to avoid local fatigue from limiting your efforts, while you crank out unreal power outputs.
ccrow, you are my new hero. Great post.
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I find traditional, leg oriented cardio to be excruciatingly boring. However, when combining the arms and legs in cardio, you can maintain a higher heartrate with less perceived effort. Prime examples of this are:
HeavyHands
Cross country skiiing or Nordic Trac style machines
Schwinn Aire-Dyne (or however it's spelled)
Rowing
Clean and Press
Clean and Jerk
I'm surprised that you didn't mention shadowboxing.
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I was just about to say that. With supersetting your heart rate can be as intense as doing cardio. Its all about intensity. There's no resting on your laurels when supersetting. Throw in some high rep squats and I'd say, "Treadmill? What treadmill?" ;)
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I do find that with the strongman training...it is a cardio session in itself!!
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Now I know I need to throw in some more cardio . . . but part of me . . . when I think of cardio . . . well . . .
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...Marlene and I got in some unexpected cario this morning. We started on our one mile walk around the neighborhood when we heard the trash truck and realized that we left ours in the garage. We ran home and ran the trash cans out to the street just in time. Marlene actually ran! ...Regarding the Karvonen method, heart monmitors, etc. It is just too much trouble for me. I know this is not scientific, but I like to just push myself until I am out of breath - then I stop until I can breathe again. I call it the Vinnie method
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I hate cardo that is why I do a lot of high rep stuff now. Does that count? I'm I doomed to get on the treadmill? #$%&
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ccrow, you are my new hero.
I am embarassed that I am still only as strong as one of those rowing broads.
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I have seen some sleepy cardio folks alright. They need a device that makes disturbing noises and jerks them awake just as their eyes start to close...kind of like the "idiot bumps" on the road. It could prevent many a bruised bottoms and emergency room visits.
They could use them on the benches and leg presses too. If the person sits there more than 10 minutes and they start to go to sleep it activates the product just enough to "shock them into new growth". :)
Amen to that. I had to leave the other day after watching the old guy with the little ponytail and the even older one with the solid gray hair and the smaller ponytail going through their treadmill and eliptical routines. Tried out the comedy aspect in front of my 85 year old parents and my sister in law and had them in stitches.
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Cardio serves two main purposes, as far as I can see: fitness and weight control. The weight control part may make it, ultimately, the healthiest part of your training. Of course I realize it isn't a magic bullet for weight control without a sound diet - even Lance Armstrong could eat faster than he can pedal.
If you can maintain a high level of all around fitness and an ideal bodyweight without cardio, you can live without it. Dave is probably one of the Lucky Bastards (tm) that fall into this category. There are also dietary L. B.'s that don't struggle to avoid junk and eat perfectly, easily; Dave may be in this category, too, and being in both may be why he looks like he's from a different planet from the rest of us.
(Now I see a few people noticed cardio had some beneficial effects for stress reduction; I guess that would be another main purpose, although it doesn't do it for me.)
That's how I lost my weight when I started training. Had three months of weights under my belt and started running 3 X a week. Lost between 20 and 25 pounds in a couple of months. I also found it helped alleviate stress.
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The truth is an awful lot of muscleheads are in denial about their cardiovascular fitness. Of course, likewise, a lot of endurance athletes are in denial about their strength levels. For every barbell boy that breathes heavy if they have to take the stairs to the third floor, there's a marathoner that feels that ten pushups and some situps in their warmup constitutes cross training.
Both ought to wake up and smell the coffee. Barbell boy, you may be able to bench press a bus, but if you have to chase it for a block you're going to die. Marathon man, your heart may be in great shape but you have the physique and power of an eleven year old stamp collector. Either one of these deficiencies is going to catch up with you eventually.
Not everyone has to be an elite performer in everything, but at least put some thought into minimal standards for all aspects of fitness, and figure out a way to meet them.
Boy ain't that the truth.
Never liked the treadmill or the bike when I started. Running did it for me. My favorite was beach running. Couldn't beat the scenery and I would run down other joggers who had passed me going the other way. Even though I was running solo I would compete with others.
Now, I wouldn't consider running but the cycles have it all and there are so many ways to attack it I never get bored. The first couple of minutes can be tough, but after that I get totally into it. Sometimes I'll get on the bike the day after squats and try to do twenty minutes of steady pedaling. I can't. I have to try and improve on the last workout. I need to go longer or faster or harder. I see guys pedaling away with the machine flatlined at level one. What's up with that. I smoked for thirty years and I started out higher than that when I quit.
Over the past thirty years I can't say that I've seen very many guys do any kind of cardio work before or after lifting. They do a few minutes to warm up or finish up, but there is absolutely no effort involved. No wonder they're bored. I've also never seen anybody doing a weight routine that would qualify as a cardio routine. Andy's 3X3 sounds like a tough one, but I suspect most guy's would have to drop the weight too much to complete it and their egos wouldn't allow it. That and the fact that it sounds very painful and I don't see many guys pushing themselves that hard either.
I suspect for most, it's their egos that get in the way of the cardio. If they can't measure it in pounds or inches it serves no purpose.
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ccrow, you are my new hero.
I am embarassed that I am still only as strong as one of those rowing broads.
You should be Nancy Boy!
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Cardio is an integral part of any fitness program. Your heart is a muscle and needs to be exercised. Cardio is also beneficial to your circulatory system as well.
Heart patients respond much better to an excercise regimen than they do with the bed rest that was prescribed decades ago. It only makes sense that cardiovascular activity is beneficial to healthy individuals as well.
And theres nothing like a good high intensity cardio session to sweat all the meanness out of you.
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ccrow, you are my new hero.
I am embarassed that I am still only as strong as one of those rowing broads.
You should be Nancy Boy!
That's Nancy Man to you, wise guy!
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I try to keep enough of a pace up with the weights that I get a little cardio out of it. I also like long (45 min - hour) cardio workouts to get the old ticker moving. I like the longer time frame to hit that first wall and push through to the second wind. I also like stretching. Why? I feel better when I'm regularly lifting weights. My body just feels tight and strong. My knees feel better I feel better when I'm regularly doing cardio. My body feels light and the air feels cleaner in my lungs. I feel better when I regularly stretch. My body joints feel like rubber and I can reach and apply power anywhere I want. Put them together and I feel even better still. I feel like I'm made of iron rods connected with steel cables and well oiled joints powered by a rumbly diesel engine.
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I'm surprised that you didn't mention shadowboxing.
Well I almost did...one of the things that can be done in the HeavyHands style of movement is shadow boxing type movements. Also, "wood chopping" type movements and dance type movements...all with the added benefit of weight to up the workload.
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I find that cardio conditioning enables me to sustain horizontal adult activities for a longer duration of time. That’s the cleaned up version for “I do it coz it makes me @!@! better” And no Gary, I’m not talking about lying on the couch and eating potato chips….
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I find that cardio conditioning enables me to sustain horizontal adult activities for a longer duration of time.
That’s the cleaned up version for “I do it coz it makes me @!@! better”
And no Gary, I’m not talking about lying on the couch and eating potato chips….
So you say.....:)
a survey or scientific study seems necessary here to prove or disprove your theory
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I find that cardio conditioning enables me to sustain horizontal adult activities for a longer duration of time.
That’s the cleaned up version for “I do it coz it makes me @!@! better”
And no Gary, I’m not talking about lying on the couch and eating potato chips….
So you say.....:)
a survey or scientific study seems necessary here to prove or disprove your theory
I totally agree with you on this one… An in-depth scientific study needs to be produced.
Let the study commence!
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I find that cardio conditioning enables me to sustain horizontal adult activities for a longer duration of time.
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I find that cardio conditioning enables me to sustain horizontal adult activities for a longer duration of time.
That’s the cleaned up version for “I do it coz it makes me @!@! better”
And no Gary, I’m not talking about lying on the couch and eating potato chips….
So you say.....:)
a survey or scientific study seems necessary here to prove or disprove your theory
I totally agree with you on this one… An in-depth scientific study needs to be produced.
Let the study commence!
We'll need some good hard.. er.. no... solid.. um no.. uh.. ok just some good evidence and data.. a testi moanial or two...(bad puns) and of couse graphs, diagrams, charts and photos.. And of course we need to see how this all lines up with your biorythms as well..
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If your work/play/sport requires walking/jogging/running/sprinting you need to do that from time to time. If for no other reason to at least maintain fitness and conditioning related movement patterns. On the other hand, you certainly don't need to do those activities to tickle your cardiorespiratory system.
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I'll do 3 - 4k a summer on my bike, and nothin at all in the winter. I have noticed little difference in my body fat level or intensity in the weight gym, durin either season.
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IMO, top reason you need cardio is that you can only reduce calories so far.
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Wow Laree, Better check the bandwidth usage as this post is rocking with the mere small chance that our GURU Dave could...ooops...struggle..BE WRONG.
You think I wrote a good title? lol.
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Laree; you said "At least, I know for certain most women need more cardio work"
More cardio work than strength work? Or just more cardio in general?
Actually, when I wrote that what I was thinking was "more cardio than men". But now, let me backtrack just one more time in response to the rest of your post: If the choice is between cardio and weights, weights wins in almost all conditions, and maybe I'd expand that also to say *especially* for women. One of my main points, aside from the value of a heart rate monitor and an example of an interval for those who've never done one, is that we don't have to choose; in fact, we need both.
I'll tell you, I feel a ton better (as opposed to a ton heavier) since I ramped up my cardio. My weight training is fast; even my heavier training is fast because of supersetting habits established nearly 20 years ago and maintained since. You could call much, if not all, my iron hour interval work, yet I still felt a substantial change in fitness after HIITing up my cardio time. It's worth a try, youse guys.
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Something that has not been mentioned here, but we discussed a little last year when this was a hot topic was your recovery. If you are more fit, cardio wise, you will recover faster from your training and you'll get stronger faster. I had a link I sent out but cannot find it.
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Something that has not been mentioned here, but we discussed a little last year when this was a hot topic was your recovery. If you are more fit, cardio wise, you will recover faster from your training and you'll get stronger faster. I had a link I sent out but cannot find it.
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So true!
Cardio does compliment weight training. Working out with weights in under an hour is now possible! I am still happy I kept my focus on the weight training instead of the cardio although both are equally important. Although the gains have leveled off, the rewards of quickly seeing your body gain strength and shape provides the incentive to stay with a fitness program.
I get no high from marathon cardio sessions; however, I have found the interval training agreeable.
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;-(((((
CB
Double chins from no cardio?
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I try to keep enough of a pace up with the weights that I get a little cardio out of it. I also like long (45 min - hour) cardio workouts to get the old ticker moving. I like the longer time frame to hit that first wall and push through to the second wind. I also like stretching. Why?
I feel better when I'm regularly lifting weights. My body just feels tight and strong. My knees feel better
I feel better when I'm regularly doing cardio. My body feels light and the air feels cleaner in my lungs.
I feel better when I regularly stretch. My body joints feel like rubber and I can reach and apply power anywhere I want.
Put them together and I feel even better still. I feel like I'm made of iron rods connected with steel cables and well oiled joints powered by a rumbly diesel engine.
Scrubbo is nothing but twisted steel and sex appeal.
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I try to keep enough of a pace up with the weights that I get a little cardio out of it. I also like long (45 min - hour) cardio workouts to get the old ticker moving. I like the longer time frame to hit that first wall and push through to the second wind. I also like stretching. Why?
I feel better when I'm regularly lifting weights. My body just feels tight and strong. My knees feel better
I feel better when I'm regularly doing cardio. My body feels light and the air feels cleaner in my lungs.
I feel better when I regularly stretch. My body joints feel like rubber and I can reach and apply power anywhere I want.
Put them together and I feel even better still. I feel like I'm made of iron rods connected with steel cables and well oiled joints powered by a rumbly diesel engine.
Scrubbo is nothing but twisted steel and sex appeal.
/sk
I'm more like a beachball on stilts right now, but I'm getting better. Hints of when I was 20 and 170 pounds of lean stretchy muscle are starting to get through. I remember them abs! I will see them again!
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I try to keep enough of a pace up with the weights that I get a little cardio out of it. I also like long (45 min - hour) cardio workouts to get the old ticker moving. I like the longer time frame to hit that first wall and push through to the second wind. I also like stretching. Why?
I feel better when I'm regularly lifting weights. My body just feels tight and strong. My knees feel better
I feel better when I'm regularly doing cardio. My body feels light and the air feels cleaner in my lungs.
I feel better when I regularly stretch. My body joints feel like rubber and I can reach and apply power anywhere I want.
Put them together and I feel even better still. I feel like I'm made of iron rods connected with steel cables and well oiled joints powered by a rumbly diesel engine.
Scrubbo is nothing but twisted steel and sex appeal.
/sk
Word!
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Double chins from no cardio?
Frowns ! I hate cardio ! Prefer 15-30 seconds between sets or super, tri or giant sets.
CB ;-(
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G'Day Folks, OK I couldnt hold back any longer I gotta put my 2c worth in :o ) I believe cardio to be a necessary evil. I hate cardio with a passion but I do what I gotta do coz its needed. Lately I have introduced my one on one clients to a circuit type workout for their cardio. 5 mins warm up on the bike then over to a chest exercise with a light to moderate weight where they push out 20 reps then back on the bike for 2 mins keeping the rpm at 3 digits or as close to it depending on their fitness levels. I then repeat with a back, shoulder,bicep tricep and Ab exercise then 5 min warm down on the bike at the end. If my client is fit enough, during the warm down after 2 mins I throw in 2 30 sec sprints with 30 sec rests then taper down to finish, total time 30 mins. Another one is 5 mins warm up then straight onto a chest exercise, then straight to a back, then shoulder, leg press, leg curl,biceps,triceps Abs all for 20 reps at a moderate weight then back on the bike for 2 mins triple digit rpm then repeat the cycle then back to the bike for a 5 min warm down. My clients all seem to love it, they say WOW now that feels like I have REALLY done something. I did these routines years ago and it helped me lose body fat. I am thinking I may just go with it again this coming week just for a change of pace. Regards Mick
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I try to keep enough of a pace up with the weights that I get a little cardio out of it. I also like long (45 min - hour) cardio workouts to get the old ticker moving. I like the longer time frame to hit that first wall and push through to the second wind. I also like stretching. Why?
I feel better when I'm regularly lifting weights. My body just feels tight and strong. My knees feel better
I feel better when I'm regularly doing cardio. My body feels light and the air feels cleaner in my lungs.
I feel better when I regularly stretch. My body joints feel like rubber and I can reach and apply power anywhere I want.
Put them together and I feel even better still. I feel like I'm made of iron rods connected with steel cables and well oiled joints powered by a rumbly diesel engine.
Scrubbo is nothing but twisted steel and sex appeal.
/sk
Definitely twisted; not so sure about the rest.. :*)
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mjolson
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I hate cardio ! Prefer 15-30 seconds between sets or super, tri or giant sets.
Here's a thought for those of you who despise cardio:
1. Buy a heavy bag and some hand wraps. This is not a cardio setup -- it's for anger management. Really.
2. When the nagging sensation of "I should do some cardio" pops into your head, wrap your hands and take out your cardio-hating frustration on the heavy bag for a few minutes.
3. Catch your breath.
4. Repeat 2-3 as necessary until you're too tired to be frustrated.
5. Realize that you're also too tired to do cardio and walk away.
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I hate cardio ! Prefer 15-30 seconds between sets or super, tri or giant sets.
Here's a thought for those of you who despise cardio:
1. Buy a heavy bag and some hand wraps. This is not a cardio setup -- it's for anger management. Really.
2. When the nagging sensation of "I should do some cardio" pops into your head, wrap your hands and take out your cardio-hating frustration on the heavy bag for a few minutes.
3. Catch your breath.
4. Repeat 2-3 as necessary until you're too tired to be frustrated.
5. Realize that you're also too tired to do cardio and walk away.
This may be the best post I've ever read for people who hate cardio.
The more I eat and the heavier I train, the better my genetics get.
If you're not paraplegic and not squatting, please kick your own ass for me."
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Something that has not been mentioned here, but we discussed a little last year when this was a hot topic was your recovery. If you are more fit, cardio wise, you will recover faster from your training and you'll get stronger faster. I had a link I sent out but cannot find it.
/sk
Well, MY excuse was that my weight training regimen kicks my butt and I don't have the energy for cardio, but I see you've just shot that one right out the window. Thanks. Can you at least help me come up with another excuse, old friend? How about, "it bores the daylights out of me"? What's the cure for that?
Does cardio get scintillating after awhile?
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Well, MY excuse was that my weight training regimen kicks my butt and I don't have the energy for cardio, but I see you've just shot that one right out the window. Thanks. Can you at least help me come up with another excuse, old friend? How about, "it bores the daylights out of me"? What's the cure for that?
Does cardio get scintillating after awhile?
Truth be told, while I dislike cardio, I find the HIIT stuff anything but boring. I submit to those of you who are bored, that you're not working hard enough.
I did all my cardio the other day on an incline. I had to concentrate to keep standing and keep up. below 10% I can read books while doing this; I enjoy the time.
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ArtH......cool.........now explain what you said....hahahahhaha....man I got lost......;-)...which isn't very easy for me NOT to do. My wife has a cartoon she put on the frig....it's a guy looking into the refriegerator that is full of sticks of butter....and he says, "HONEY!Where's the butter!?"
I've been doing cycling to warm up my legs and as theropy for my knees, but I never considered cycling as a good way to do Cardio...
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Laree......CCROW made some good points......I have to ask this. If you can't answer.....it's cool. Just how disciplined is Dave with his diet...I'm not asking does he cheat. I mean does he really make it a routine....always eat a ballanced controled diet? I laughed in this weeks Newsletter when he told of you eating popcorn once a week......hell, I could eat a monster bowl of the stuff every night....
Thanks Art
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G'Day again Folks, I forgot to mention that just before Christmas last year I qualified as a Les Mills "Body Box" instructor (not sure if you guys outside Aus and NZ know of Les Mills and his programs. Basically I spen 30 mins (including a 5 min warm up and warm down) taking my clients through a series of very basic punches and kicks, ie: jab, cross, right and left hooks, right and left uppercuts, right and left roundhouse kicks and right and left front kicks. Added to that there are the 3 again basic defensive moves of duck, slip (left and right movement to avoid a blow aimed at the head these I telegraph and perform slow so as not to injure my client LOL)and a high side block and a low side block. This provides an awesome workout and again the clients love it. Its a great cardio workout and stress reliever. The down side is I end up sweating to, LOL as I need to duck and weave etc but then another cardio session for me that AINT ON A TREADMILL OR BIKE!!!! Yippeeeeee!!! Regards Mick..
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ccrow said:...even Lance Armstrong could eat faster than he can pedal.
This is quite true actually. Many people don't realize that even with the enormous levels of training he did during his TdF wins, Lance weighed every portion of food he ate! One of his main rivals Jan Ullrich often had problems losing weight, even though he trained quite heavily as well.
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The truth is an awful lot of muscleheads are in denial about their cardiovascular fitness.
True.
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Both ought to wake up and smell the coffee. Barbell boy, you may be able to bench press a bus, but if you have to chase it for a block you're going to die.
Jeff Lewis comes to mind!
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Marathon man, your heart may be in great shape but you have the physique and power of an eleven year old stamp collector. Either one of these deficiencies is going to catch up with you eventually.
Not everyone has to be an elite performer in everything, but at least put some thought into minimal standards for all aspects of fitness, and figure out a way to meet them.
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Occupation: Website work
info_have_been_training_since: 12-31-79
Primary Training Purpose: Fitness and strength beats aging badly
Real Email Address: ld@davedraper.com
Homepage: davedraper.com
(Rhymes with Marie)
Full name: Laree Draper
Gender: female
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Art V said:
I have to ask this. If you can't answer.....it's cool. Just how disciplined is Dave with his diet...I'm not asking does he cheat. I mean does he really make it a routine....always eat a ballanced controled diet?
Yes, he eats 100% purposefully. The habit's so ingrained with him by now that he's really not interested in food as a treat. I mean, he likes good food and gets sick of cottage cheese, tuna, tomatoes and red bell pepper snacks, but he eats it anyway. Day after day after day. This has been going on as long as I've known him, 20 years, and probably longer.
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KO said:
Well, MY excuse was that my weight training regimen kicks my butt and I don't have the energy for cardio, but I see you've just shot that one right out the window. Thanks. Can you at least help me come up with another excuse, old friend? How about, "it bores the daylights out of me"? What's the cure for that?
Does cardio get scintillating after awhile?
One of the main points of the initial post as to address that issue (obviously I didn't do a sufficient job): HEART RATE MONITOR. Training with a heart rate monitor and a plan is a blast. Very interesting during and very fulfilling after.
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Steven
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I have used a heart rate monitor for a couple of years and I like cardio, it makes a game out of it.
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Tom Traynor
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I walk my dog briskly through a cemetary (really) for my "cardio". As I do so, I wonder: "How did so many people live so long, long ago without treadmills?" Purposeful movement, perhaps? Less processed foods? More veggies? Better fats? All of the above?
The 3 x 3 routine described previously--done intensively is most horrifically "cardio". I have "blown up" MANY cardio cats with the 3 x3. They don't like it when "these weights" cause their heart rate to FAR exceed their so-called cardio session heart rate levels.
Just testing: Ten minutes of 140-160 rpms of rope jumping for three 3-minute rounds with 30-sec breaks the other day was not a problem. Nothing compared to "those weights". Resting heart rate taken a minute ago: 48 BPM. Total Cholestoral taken the other day: 116--with a diet 40-50% of fats--the good ones.
Steady-state cardio was INVENTED at the Coopers Clinic about 30-some years ago. NONE of the so-called cardio pieces we now see dominating gyms--and members "workouts"-- existed before then. Purposeful movement beats steady-state for any reason one can name IMO.
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DanMartin
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Tom Traynor said:
Steady-state cardio was INVENTED at the Coopers Clinic about 30-some years ago. NONE of the so-called cardio pieces we now see dominating gyms--and members "workouts"-- existed before then. Purposeful movement beats steady-state for any reason one can name IMO.
One of the most interesting things that I noticed by watching the "Pumping Iron" DVD is the absence of "cardio" equipment at Joe Gold's.
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DanMartin
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Kettlebells are a cardio ass kicker.
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Andy Mitchell
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My Daugther just walked into the room and said you look like Molly Meldrum :) I think it's the hat. I have a question to all; Why do we do cardio? What need does it meet?
Nice legs-shame about the face
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