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Pontyclun
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11-19-20 04:26 PM - Post#904792    



Just read this and thought it was worthy of sharing.

4 Rules for Training to Run Fast
When it comes to exercise, we often get extremely complicated. For strength training, we get lost in the exercise type, the sets and reps, and the speed of the bar. In running, we look at different speed or intensity zones, heart rates, interval lengths, and recoveries. It’s easy to get lost in the details.
In the spirit of last week’s newsletter, where I discussed the danger of complexification, this week I’m going to provide the keys to training for any endurance event in the simplest form possible. Instead of prescribing what to do based on miles or speed, we’re going to use something that every one of us has access to every second of the day: our breath. Here’s what just about every endurance athlete should have in their training week:
1. Your Chatty Friend: Talk with Ease
The vast majority of your workouts should be easy enough to have a full conversation. Yes, a full conversation. If you find yourself struggling, slow down, or even walk. I’ve had more conversations on runs then in any other aspect of my life. It’s the secret to getting through running so many miles. Eighty to ninety percent of your training week should be full on conversations. The hard stuff is the icing on the cake.
2. Talk like a Shy Introvert at a Party: A few sentences here or there
One day a week, spend between 10-30 minutes total (can be split up anyway you’d like) where your effort level equates to the ability to say about two short sentences (e.g., “I’m feeling really good today. I got this”). This is living on the edge territory, where you are just a tad on the right side of the fatigue line, where if you pushed further, things would go downhill quick. I call this riding the wave, everything is great when you caught the wave, don’t try to get fancy, do too much, and have to bail before the wave is finished. If you find your breathing is getting out of control, ease off a touch.
3. Talk like a Teenager: Only use a word or two.
One day a week, spend some time where your breathing is on the wrong side of in control. Where you can say a word or two, maybe eke out a short sentence, but any more than that, and you’d be in trouble. These are the workouts where after each rep you have to spend some time catching your breathe. (Side note: catch your breath however you want, hands on your knees is perfectly fine. Despite what your junior high PE teacher told you, you do not have to stand up tall with your hands over your head!) How much time? Depends on what you’re goal is. You can either run pretty fast to get out of breath, or relatively fast with short rest. It’s up to you! Just do something that makes you feel the burn a bit. No need to go overboard.
4. Be the Smooth Dude: Fast and Able to Talk
The final category is what I like to call rhythm work, where the goal isn’t to get tired or experience fatigue, it’s just to get your body used to running fast. For this work, it can be its own day with a warm-up and cool down, or for regular runners, it can be tacked on to one of those easy/full conversation days. Keep it short and sweet, between 10 to 30 seconds in length for each rep. Depending on how fast you are going, take as much recovery as you need afterward. How many reps should you do? How fast should you go? Find a rhythm, be fast but relaxed, and don’t build up fatigue. It’s that simple
With the athletes I coach, we get more complicated than this. But the majority of us aren’t trying to run a 2:25 marathon. These are the basics for running fast: Run long and easy, run on the edge of discomfort, get out of breath every once in a while, and learn how to run fast but relaxed
Owen Brown, a Biomedical Scientist from Pontyclun, Wales.


 
aussieluke
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11-19-20 07:03 PM - Post#904801    



Great stuff thanks for posting.

It seems there are many very similar methods from many top coaches past and present.

I find running this way (mostly in that full conversation mode) makes everything much less stressful and even more so if you can forget about GPS and pace splits and HRMs - it all just sucks the joy out of it.

Also add to that the niko niko idea of running with a smile on your face. If you find your face contorting and red and you’re scaring other people with your face maybe you’re going too hard and probably not enjoying yourself much :)
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Dan John
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11-20-20 10:04 AM - Post#904819    



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11-20-20 10:45 AM - Post#904822    



I ran track as a school boy and at the junior college level. I wasn't very good, but I enjoyed it and I scored points for the team. All of that said, speed kills.
Mark it Zero.


 
SpiderLegs
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11-20-20 02:04 PM - Post#904835    



I may have mentioned it here before, if I have I apologize. But back in college I was a somewhat decent bicycle racer and on occasion had a chance to train with visiting European pros who came to AZ for the weather and get away from the press. If training in Spain, they'd be greeted with press and fans at their vacation rental, but in Tucson nobody knew who they were. They would stop into the bike shop I worked at looking for roads to train on and I would volunteer to play tour guide.

One guy in particular had finished in the top 20 of the previous year's Tour de France and was fourth in the hill climbing competition within the race. Asked him about training and in a very thick French accent told me this. "On your slow days, train very slow. On your fast days, train very fast. Never train medium. Train more slow than fast. "
 
Old Miler
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11-20-20 03:30 PM - Post#904846    




The "talk test" - Mags' #1 pace above - has been around way longer than Maffetone. Sunday morning runs are for catching up with your friends. I miss running with others.
 
DanMartin
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11-21-20 09:39 AM - Post#904887    



I've been more and more fascinated with the whole Maffetone thing.

Drilling a bit deeper than I had previously, it seems so similar to things I read about cardiac rehab.
Mark it Zero.


 
Steve Rogers
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11-21-20 12:04 PM - Post#904892    



You might be interested in Niko Niko running.
"Coyote is always waiting, and Coyote is always hungry."


 
Ricky01
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11-21-20 12:17 PM - Post#904893    



  • Steve Rogers Said:
You might be interested in Niko Niko running.



Well given the definition and seeing people do it - they certainly look happy. There is something to that.

Richard
 
tom6112
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11-21-20 02:32 PM - Post#904899    



As a runner since 77 the old saying is run a lot mostly easy .
 
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