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Conor78
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10-11-20 10:08 AM - Post#903360    



A few friends of mine go to local gym essentially CF type of gym. One of the most popular classes is a 1000 calorie class either done though a bike or CF type workouts. I went along and did it once but was wiped out that evening and into the next day. Working off an Apple Watch my workouts normally burn 300/400 in 45 min to an hour Doing the ES4FL with the walk was around 450 active calories.
Whats everyone’s thoughts on using calories as a way of setting up workouts.
 
marc29
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10-11-20 10:32 AM - Post#903361    



how do 1000 calorie workouts fit in with your fitness goals?
 
Conor78
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10-11-20 11:25 AM - Post#903362    



Doesn’t fit with mine; on top of all of life’s other stresses I’d doubt I would last 2 weeks with that sort of approach. In saying that the place is packed to the rafters and the monthly price is premium level. I suppose as Dan says it’s easy to make someone tired, do 1000 burpees
 
Old Miler
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10-11-20 12:29 PM - Post#903364    



I think it's the intensity that gets you. When I was a young competitive runner, I could rack up 1200-1500 (12-15 miles) doing an easy Sunday morning run (90-120 minutes). I am quite sure cyclists burn more because their Sunday socials can be several hours.

But to pack it into one hour needed a near-race-level ten miles, or a really tough long interval session. I imagine the gym equivalents are quite gruelling. I doubt I ever burned more than 350-400 in a weights session....but those sessions still made me stronger
 
Conor78
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10-11-20 01:02 PM - Post#903365    



Old Miller That’s an interesting point about the cyclists. The guys I know who cycle are obsessed with calorie burn. I suppose for people who weight train the focus is usually on weight or sets/reps.
 
Jordan D
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10-11-20 02:27 PM - Post#903367    



It's all just a measure of energy expenditure, isn't it?

I guess it only matters what you get back from that expenditure. What's the return on investment?

What do you get back from a 1,000-calorie-burning session? For me, it would be 3 days of soreness and an inability to train. Two sessions would almost guarantee an injury of some sort within two weeks.

As usual, it sounds like a matter of goals. I can't fathom any goals for which a 1,000-calorie-burning session would be useful, unless they were 1) getting better at 1,000-calorie-burning sessions, or 2) losing weight (of both the fatty and muscle tissue varieties).
 
Justin Jordan
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10-11-20 02:33 PM - Post#903368    



Assuming you don't weigh 300 pounds or more, it is near impossible to burn 1000 calories in a workout. Those who can manage it are in really, really good shape.

I mean, for an average size person to do that in an hour, you're looking at running something ten miles in an hour or equivalent work.

That's not world class by any stretch, but that's vastly more fit than probably 99% of people. People in general either accidentally or intentionally overestimate how much energy they're burning.

Of course, if the workout takes three hours it's more realistic, if you're willing to do something for three hours.
 
Justin Jordan
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10-11-20 02:35 PM - Post#903369    



That SAID, if you want to lose weight, I think tracking calories burned, assuming you're measuring the same way each time, is a solid way to make sure you're maintaining a solid workload.

I did that - when I went to the gym I'd do a half hour on the elliptical, and I tried to continually beat the calorie burn from last time. It wasn't accurate, but as long as it was consistent, it was fine.
 
Old Miler
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10-11-20 03:29 PM - Post#903372    



  • Conor78 Said:
Old Miller



Sorry to nitpick but it's "Miler" - i.e. old guy who once specialised in the Mile/1500. I have no experience in "milling", which is either what Arnold was doing in the Conan movie with the big wheel during his teens, or UK Parachute regiment slang for punching the new guys' lights out.
 
Old Miler
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10-11-20 03:34 PM - Post#903373    



  • Conor78 Said:
...The guys I know who cycle are obsessed with calorie burn...




I see them talking about "power" all the time, like who did how many watts, or calories per hour, on a climb or fixed duration ride. I think it's because you can't easily compare time and distance like runners can - the price of your bike makes quite a difference.

That's one thing I love about both running and weights: you can't easily buy an upgrade. At least, not until recently ;-)
 
Pontyclun
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10-11-20 04:55 PM - Post#903374    



It would take a very good cyclist to me able to burn 1000 calories in an hour, you’d have to push an average of 277 watts for the whole hour.

Using calories to measure a workout may be a fun way to motivate a class, but can result in multiple different training outcomes. For example, I could do 5 different workouts, each burning 1000cals, but workout intensity would determine what energy systems are being trained - steady state riding in zone 2, 30 minute intervals at tempo, 20 minute intervals at sweetspot, 10 minute intervals at threshold, or 3 minute intervals at V02 max.

Owen Brown, a Biomedical Scientist from Pontyclun, Wales.


 
Neander
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10-11-20 06:10 PM - Post#903375    



That ain't for me.
Way too much anal headwork getting in the way.
But to each his own!
If you're not sweating you need to find another gear.



 
Browser
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10-11-20 07:04 PM - Post#903377    



Wouldn’t it be much easier to just not eat a thousand calories? All you have to do is sit there.
"The trouble about always trying to preserve the health of the body is that it is so difficult to do without destroying the health of the mind."~GK Chesterton


 
tom6112
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10-12-20 12:56 AM - Post#903378    



I am 205-210 right now.
When I run 7 to 8 miles that has to be close to 1000 calories.
But it is longer than an hour
 
Matt_T
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10-12-20 04:27 AM - Post#903381    



  • Browser Said:
Wouldn’t it be much easier to just not eat a thousand calories? All you have to do is sit there.



100%.

Bet everyone who does that workout goes home and eats another 1000 calories too.
 
Jordan D
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10-12-20 09:27 AM - Post#903391    



Now that I think about it, this sounds a lot like high school football and basketball practice.

 
vegpedlr
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10-12-20 11:23 AM - Post#903396    



For awhile In tained with a HRM and bike computer that each estimated calorie burn. After a long ride they were both wildly different. So I don’t put much stock in what they say. It’s true that road cyclists like to play with gadgets and triathletes especially. But power meters are used in conjunction with heart rate to get a more accurate picture of training intensity. Just like road runners are often obsessed with pace. As for calories, cyclists are often also obsessed both with saving weight and being adequately fueled for multi hour events.
 
DanMartin
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10-12-20 12:22 PM - Post#903401    



What cannot be determined is the % of fat, carbohydrates and protein burned during the 1000 calorie adventure.

Practice what you suck at.


 
vegpedlr
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10-12-20 01:04 PM - Post#903404    



  • DanMartin Said:
What cannot be determined is the % of fat, carbohydrates and protein burned during the 1000 calorie adventure.




At the required intensity, that’s mostly carbs. The glycogen depletion is a big part of why you would feel so destroyed.
 
Dan John
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10-12-20 01:10 PM - Post#903405    



I'm looking up the calorie thing on my Maffetone HR monitor.

For me, 1000 calories would be a five to six mile walk with ankle weights and heavy hands. That would be around two to three hours.

I imagine the 500 swings a day would do something...but not a 1000 calories.

I still think it is better to lift and walk and burn off the free fatty acids than worrying about calories. For me. YMMV
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Old Miler
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10-12-20 01:34 PM - Post#903407    



  • Browser Said:
Wouldn’t it be much easier to just not eat a thousand calories? All you have to do is sit there.



The dream among enduro-junkies is training so much that you can eat anything you want to. Sadly it only seems to work in your twenties ;-)
 
Steve W.
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10-12-20 01:35 PM - Post#903408    



  • Neander Said:

Way too much anal headwork getting in the way.



Trying not to visualize this...

In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice; in practice, there is.

Just because it happened to you doesn't make it interesting.


 
Old Miler
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10-12-20 02:42 PM - Post#903413    



  • Dan John Said:

I still think it is better to lift and walk and burn off the free fatty acids than worrying about calories. For me. YMMV



Totally agreed. It's a means of boasting about what a humongous workout you did. As I think you said, any fool can get someone tired.
 
DanMartin
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10-12-20 04:25 PM - Post#903425    



I was thinking about this thread while I was mowing my lawn. To train for something like this seems counter intuitive, at least to me. You get yourself to a point of exceptional fitness only to push yourself to a breaking point so that you can reach the arbitrary goal of burning 1000 calories in an hour's time.

It reminds me of high level boxers who get themselves razor sharp only to be beaten to a pulp. YMMV
Practice what you suck at.


 
Upside
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1000 calorie workouts
10-12-20 07:34 PM - Post#903436    



  • Jordan D Said:
Now that I think about it, this sounds a lot like high school football and basketball practice.




Amen.
During basketball season in my junior year of college I was as fit as I've ever been. So much so I that I don't care to ever be "fitter."

Going from football to basketball to track in high school was no slouch either.

I've read that NBA players during camp eat upwards of 10,000 calories a day.

Edited by Upside on 10-12-20 07:37 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
 
Donald123
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10-13-20 12:01 AM - Post#903447    



I think people are using that 100 calorie per mile figure in estimating how much you burn while running, but it depends on your weight. The numbers you find online vary, but back when I cared about this stuff for my weight I remember reading it was about 125 calories per mile. I could run 8 miles in an hour back then, so a 1000 calorie workout was possible and not that impressive. It was fast for me, but doable.

If you think of it as 10 miles in an hour then that would have been beyond me .
 
GeoffreyLevens
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10-14-20 10:17 AM - Post#903485    



Easy way to burn 800 calories. See photo

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