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SLG
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07-26-20 09:33 AM - Post#900701    



I have been doing Simple & Sinister for about 6-7 months, taking it very slowly, just twice a week, with very gradual introduction of higher weights (about one set moving up in weight every 2 to 3 or 4 weeks). This is in addition to some light running and solo sports training. I haven't been overtraining, and I have been taking breaks when necessary. I am 52 and feel like I am in as good shape and fitness as I've been for a long time.

So why do I find that my TGUs are getting weaker at the higher weight? I spent a while going from 5 singles of 35# to 5 singles of 45# according to the schedule I laid out above. When I substituted a 26kg (about 56#) for one of my 45# sets, it went up easily, even though I was at the tail end of the fast-mimicking diet. But over the last few weeks, that 26kg set has become more and more difficult. (I don't know whether it makes any difference, but the way I do TGUs includes a few presses along the way.)

Otherwise, I feel fine.

Any suggestions on what might be going on? I haven't encountered something like this before.

Thanks!
 
Matt_T
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07-26-20 05:37 PM - Post#900713    



Have you lost weight?
 
SLG
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07-26-20 10:08 PM - Post#900724    



I did. I lost about 5 or 6 pounds on the diet and have kept most of it off.
 
Matt_T
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07-27-20 04:41 AM - Post#900729    



Never trained the TGU but even minimal weight loss shows up in a regression on presses for me (OHP especially) sooner or later. Usually sooner.
 
BChase
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07-27-20 12:07 PM - Post#900746    



First off, great work staying in shape.

Couple of choices. Back off on the running and sports. training and do the S+S program 5-6 days a week.

Second choice, drop down to the 45 and increase volume. Set a clock for 15 minutes and do getups with the 45, you'll probably get 10-12. Own the bell.

You can also do Reverse Getups. Press the bell overhead, get down and then get back up. Switch hands, don't put the bell down try that for 10-15 minutes. You should probably use a 35 for this.

Finally, using the 45, try 2 or 3 reps on each side before switching.

Good luck

 
WxHerk
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07-27-20 12:40 PM - Post#900747    



  • BChase Said:
First off, great work staying in shape.

Couple of choices. Back off on the running and sports. training and do the S+S program 5-6 days a week.

Second choice, drop down to the 45 and increase volume. Set a clock for 15 minutes and do getups with the 45, you'll probably get 10-12. Own the bell.

You can also do Reverse Getups. Press the bell overhead, get down and then get back up. Switch hands, don't put the bell down try that for 10-15 minutes. You should probably use a 35 for this.

Finally, using the 45, try 2 or 3 reps on each side before switching.

Good luck





This is excellent advice.

If I may add one thing, try decreasing the presses during your getup. You didn't specify the number per getup, but I'd halve them to ensure completing the getup and decreasing time under tension. As you progress, add your presses back in at your own pace.
Just my 2¢


 
Jordan D
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07-27-20 01:30 PM - Post#900748    



  • Matt_T Said:
Never trained the TGU but even minimal weight loss shows up in a regression on presses for me (OHP especially) sooner or later. Usually sooner.



Amen to this.
 
AronLZ
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07-27-20 07:45 PM - Post#900765    



After training for 40 years I have learned that changing your routine when it stops working is a good move. It is also a great way to learn and stay motivated.
 
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