06-02-20 09:53 PM - Post#898721    

Some need to understand that a Proper workout is not a team event.

Nice legs-shame about the face

06-02-20 09:55 PM - Post#898722    

And only DM could Deadlift that off a wall Bravo.

Nice legs-shame about the face

06-02-20 10:05 PM - Post#898723    

The deadlift is always my main lift
I do use variations.
But some type every week

06-02-20 10:31 PM - Post#898724    

The Deadlift is King. That is All.

It Is Better To Be Stronger Than You Look, Than Look Stronger Than You Are My Weights Are In Freedom Units DEADLIFTS RULE!! =[[[[[[--------]]]]]]=

Deadlifts Arenchr('039')t That Great
06-03-20 01:49 AM - Post#898729    

• Andy Mitchell Said:

Yeah!!!

Thanks for sharing the photo, Dan!

I reread that article and you know what?
I am anxious to hit some reg deadlifts tomorrow.
It figures, eh.

Life's too short to worry about longevity.

Edited by Neander on 06-03-20 01:51 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

Deadlifts Arenchr('039')t That Great
06-04-20 01:55 PM - Post#898777    

I stopped deadlifting (in my home gym) months ago. With a GPP goal of 'Task Completion', high rep back squats (Super Squats) done once weekly has given me the greatest increase in all areas strength than any other program I've tried. Deadlifts up to 140kg for a solid triple last year...happybwith that. Did next to nothing for my GPP goals. I do 'real life' deadlifts, mostly sub maximal items. All the work gear became lighter after high rep back squats. Old school. I do RDLs, but light and higher reps. If I'm ever out of the physical work world, I might do some light deadlifting. Having rediscovered the low bar back squat at high reps (15-30), I have to wonder why people waste time with heavy DL. Unless competing, high rep squats will provide....everything. RIP DL. Wise man that Christian Thibaudeau. Note: I rotate back squats with dead stop Zerchers. Another superior GPP lift when compared to the DL. And..a squat highly regarded by the honourable Grand Chairman Von Tsatsouline.

Edited by Kiwi5 on 06-04-20 02:04 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

Re: Deadlifts Arenchr(chr('039')039chr('039'))t That Great
06-04-20 02:33 PM - Post#898779    

• Kiwi5 Said:

I won't say deadlifts are the be-all and end-all, but for many goals, for many people (especially people who either do not want to gain weight, or want to lose weight) they are vastly superior to squats of any kind, and especially squats done for high reps. Just depends on what you want...

06-04-20 06:13 PM - Post#898781    

Squats will get you big and strong, deadlifts will get you strong.

Mark it Zero.

06-04-20 08:17 PM - Post#898783    

Some once stated that with danger presents opportunity

I think that describes the benefits of the squat, the dead-lift and press nicely.

Nice legs-shame about the face

Deadlifts Arenchr('039')t That Great
06-04-20 08:41 PM - Post#898785    

I was and am amazed at how 'swole' I became after completing the first 6 week cycle of super squats. I was asked if I was taking steroids. Just so simple, one session per week along accessory dips, dumbell pullovers, rows/chins and RDLs, never pushed those and my gains have been substantial. For a 53 year old, I only wish I knew about Super Squats earlier. BTW, when i rotate out to Zerchers, i go back to low reps. I tried High Rep Zerchers and...never again. Having said all that, I do like the rack pull and trap bar DL. I'm just going to occasionally train them, and do so lighter than I used to.

Edited by Kiwi5 on 06-04-20 09:59 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

Deadlifts Arenchr('039')t That Great
06-05-20 01:14 AM - Post#898790    

I've posted here questioning if deadlifts were worth it for me. No matter how low I keep the reps, I will tweak my back and have to take a few weeks off and start over at a low weight.

For a while I thought I had solved the issue by pulling nothing but singles (and doing my damndest to get tight and pull without flexion in the back) but it still managed to tweak it.

Then I went to singles deadlifts off blocks (only a 3-4 inches off the ground) and still got a tweak.

When I go back to a proper gym, I'm going to do just trap bar deadlifts with the elevated handle.

For a 47 y/o with long femurs that doesn't compete in powerlifting and has a history of tweaking his back, I don't think the deadlift is for me.





Edited by Jim James on 06-05-20 01:19 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

Re: Deadlifts Arenchr(chr('039')039chr('039'))t That Great
06-05-20 01:16 AM - Post#898791    

• Kiwi5 Said:

I love the Zercher squat (out of the rack. Never done a true Zercher off the floor). What happened when you did high reps?

06-05-20 09:48 AM - Post#898802    

Today's T-Nation had an article "9 Exercises For A Complete Back". Nine back exercises and not one was a deadlift. It's like they've become the Planet Fitness of strength. So sad.

"Everybody pities the weak; jealousy you have to earn." - Arnold

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06-05-20 09:51 AM - Post#898803    

• Jim James Said:

Man, we sound very similar. I have always hated deadlifts. But I looooove squatting and benching. There is nothing worse than having a cycle going well only to wake up one morning with a knackered lower back. Well there is one thing worse...to be in the top 3 after squat and bench only to end up 7th or 8th because your deadlift sucks. There is one big squatter and bencher in my fed who only pulls heavy at meets and doesn't even really train deadlifts. I am seriously thinking of trying this.

"The trouble about always trying to preserve the health of the body is that it is so difficult to do without destroying the health of the mind."~GK Chesterton

Edited by Browser on 06-05-20 09:54 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

06-06-20 12:11 AM - Post#898817    

I had not read "Super Squats", so for my first session of 20 reps, I went with the Zercher- almost impossible to breathe, biceps were sore for days..
"Super Squats" recommend back squats for high reps, I found out the hard way! I keep my Zerchers in the 2-5 rep range.

Deadlifts Arenchr('039')t That Great
06-06-20 08:28 AM - Post#898824    

That's thinking outside the box! Zerchers for sets of 20?

One time, I did a set of 20 with double 55 lb. kettlebells just to get out of my comfort zone.

As you might have expected, the rhomboids gave out before the legs.

The only safe way to do the program is with it on your back.

Has any. done GOMAD while doing Super Squats?

Edited by BChase on 06-06-20 08:29 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

Re: Deadlifts Arenchr(chr('039')039chr('039'))t That Great
06-06-20 11:30 AM - Post#898828    

I didn't drink any milk while on the program, but did gain some weight. I would not want to stand behind someone who is drinking a gallon of milk a day while they attempt a heavy set of 20 squats.

Why are you squatting in the curl rack?

06-06-20 09:13 PM - Post#898839    

I find the RDL a very good alternative to the standard DL. I never push it, but it really hammers home the hinge. And, another great lift that transfers to my job where we lift all sorts of gear, carpets, furniture...etc.

06-07-20 08:29 AM - Post#898847    

I have a long torso and a history of back problems. Conventional deadlifts are mostly fine, at submax weights and with a belt. RDLs, however, are not a training movement for me at all. They’re the active pursuit of injury. Just seeing those three letters makes me cringe.

06-07-20 06:04 PM - Post#898856    

Interesting, RDLs must surely fall under the same 'rules' as most classic lifts. Exceed capabilities...potential for injury increases. Took me a few weeks to find my groove but they feel great now. Very good transfer to our work as I mentioned.

06-08-20 01:23 AM - Post#898871    

• Kiwi5 Said:

The only downside to doing RDLs is the severe muscle soreness that can last a couple of days.

I love it!

"I think we often spend too much time focusing on max fitness and not nearly enough on maintaining our minimums. It seems we need to think sustainable rather than obtainable. Meaning whatever we do today, we can do it again tomorrow. Never taking so much from ourselves that we can't." Dan Martin

06-08-20 05:03 PM - Post#898906    

I'm shifting to using my trap bar for RDls and rows as part of the mandatory variety thing, light weights, and moderate rep range- Dan John mentions 8 reps in some of his programmes. So I'll try that. I'm really enjoying moving away from 5's and under. Plus....lovin' 'the swole'.

06-09-20 09:18 AM - Post#898944    

• Kiwi5 Said:

I'm with Jordan on this one. I can pull double bodyweight off the floor for 10+ reps with no fear of injury, but when I do the same number of RDLs with just my bodyweight on the bar, I get paranoid because I know even a slight break in form could tweak my lumbars.

First it was good mornings, then stiff legs, and now RDLs. Old age sucks.

Be strong. Be in shape. Be a man among men, regardless of your age or circumstances.

06-09-20 11:07 AM - Post#898952    

• AAnnunz Said:

Does that happen doing KB swings?

"I think we often spend too much time focusing on max fitness and not nearly enough on maintaining our minimums. It seems we need to think sustainable rather than obtainable. Meaning whatever we do today, we can do it again tomorrow. Never taking so much from ourselves that we can't." Dan Martin

06-09-20 12:10 PM - Post#898955    

• iPood Said:

Only if my back is already trashed from something I'd done a day or two before or my arthritis is flaring up.

Be strong. Be in shape. Be a man among men, regardless of your age or circumstances.

06-09-20 12:18 PM - Post#898956    

• AAnnunz Said:

So it's not a flexibility issue. Hmmmm...

Anyway, deadlifts are awesome.

"I think we often spend too much time focusing on max fitness and not nearly enough on maintaining our minimums. It seems we need to think sustainable rather than obtainable. Meaning whatever we do today, we can do it again tomorrow. Never taking so much from ourselves that we can't." Dan Martin

06-09-20 01:05 PM - Post#898957    

• iPood Said:

What about pistols?

Deadlifts Arenchr('039')t That Great
06-09-20 01:08 PM - Post#898958    

• BChase Said:

"I think we often spend too much time focusing on max fitness and not nearly enough on maintaining our minimums. It seems we need to think sustainable rather than obtainable. Meaning whatever we do today, we can do it again tomorrow. Never taking so much from ourselves that we can't." Dan Martin

Edited by iPood on 06-09-20 01:08 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

Re: Deadlifts Arenchr(chr('039')039chr('039'))t That Great
06-09-20 04:29 PM - Post#898960    

I'm not a fan of pistols - loaded flexion of the spine eith a balance component.

I like that I can do them, but after managing I started asking why?!

Anyway, off topic, sorry.

Richard

06-10-20 08:37 AM - Post#898985    

• BChase Said:

Glock 17 for home defense.
Smith & Wesson M&P for concealed carry.

Be strong. Be in shape. Be a man among men, regardless of your age or circumstances.

06-10-20 09:01 AM - Post#898986    

The change in my "hinge" work over the years has been interesting. First it was deadlifts, then power cleans, then deadlifts and power cleans.

Now it is swings.

Are my hips, thighs and lower back as strong as when I was doing just deadlifts and power cleans? Hardly. But I'm moving good and my chronic back pain, well, it seems to be okay with swings.

Mark it Zero.

Deadlifts Arenchr(chr('039')039chr('039'))t That Great
06-10-20 09:27 AM - Post#898990    

• AAnnunz Said:

Nice choices, Al. I've always thought that the 17/19 is about all the handgun anyone needs, ammo is available anywhere, and they are great for beginners through experts. I've got a 19, myself.

I've also got a long-running soft spot for the S&W 686/66, although that is not nearly as good a choice as one of the Glocks for most people.

And any snubbie S&W .38 for concealed carry. Not that I can do that since I left the Commonwealth to move to DC, but still...




Edited by BrianBinVA on 06-10-20 09:57 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

06-10-20 12:34 PM - Post#898996    

I had to sell my handguns when Jacinda and her mob decided to punish all NZ sport shooters..oh well at least we can still go hunting.

06-10-20 02:35 PM - Post#899000    

• Kiwi5 Said:

Home Defence doesn't usually occur to us as necessary in the UK, the worst risks here usually being double-glazing salesmen. But I have a tourist-trash Samurai Sword set (fake, no real edge) bought in Japan 35 years ago and if ever I have to confront a burglar in the night then I reckon that will scare the pants off them....and beheading or bludgeoning is more of a full-body, compound movement than just shooting someone...has to be good, right?

06-10-20 05:05 PM - Post#899005    

In NZ, firearms can only be used for sporting purposes, self defense use is verboten! But my 8kg club bell....sledgehammer...

06-10-20 05:46 PM - Post#899008    

• Old Miler Said:

Home defense isn't often needed in the USA either but it's best to be prepared. I don't currently have any firearms either but do have a nice collection of knives, swords, and staves which would do in a pinch. (Gibbs' Rule #9: Never go anywhere without a knife.) However, with the epidemic of unrest spreading around the world firearms are becoming more attractive. Taking out an intruder with one of these would doubtless be a more full body compound movement than shooting them, but what if it isn't a single attacker but a gang of rioters? A firearm would increase chances of success.

"Coyote is always waiting, and Coyote is always hungry."

06-10-20 06:35 PM - Post#899009    

• Quoting:

It's all downhill . . .
But still, it's fun to figure out how to roll with the punches.

Life's too short to worry about longevity.

06-11-20 12:33 AM - Post#899021    

Side arm curl.

Life's too short to worry about longevity.

06-11-20 08:45 AM - Post#899034    

• Neander Said:

Specificity reigns, of course, but I highly recommend 12, 22, and 44 beer mug curls for overload in the off season.

Be strong. Be in shape. Be a man among men, regardless of your age or circumstances.

Deadlifts Arenchr('039')t That Great
06-11-20 12:28 PM - Post#899050    

• AAnnunz Said:

I stick to the 16, and progressi the volume by adding reps.

Edited by vegpedlr on 06-11-20 12:29 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.