Packerjohn
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01-19-20 05:31 PM - Post#892892
Title says it all, which do you prefer and why?
Thanks.
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Kyle Aaron
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01-19-20 06:12 PM - Post#892894
Neither. Carrying heavy loads for long distances is how every soldier who's been in 4+ years, or everyone with a deployment, has injuries to knee, hip or lower back.
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Dan John
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01-19-20 07:22 PM - Post#892896
Vest!
As a Person of Titanium, I like the vest. I only go about 40 pounds.
Daniel John
Just handing down what I was handed down...
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Balance work, rest, play and pray (enjoy beauty and solitude)
Sleep soundly. Drink Water. Eat veggies and protein. Walk.
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Put weights overhead. Pick weights off the floor. Carry weights.
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Kiwi5
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01-19-20 09:40 PM - Post#892899
I love my weight vest. Use it (depending on the season) for lawnmowing, twice a week around 30 minutes. I wave the weight and got up to 19kg twice a week during springtime. Absolutely dialed in my hinge (removing the grass catcher). Also fantastic belly breathing training- the weight on my ab area gives me solid feedback. That much time under tension has helped...everything.
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vegpedlr
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01-19-20 10:59 PM - Post#892900
Backpack.
Why buy unnecessary gear? Take a backpack lying around and stuff some weight into it. Plus, more real world applicability. More chance you may need or want to carry some gear for awhile, and a backpack, not a vest, is what you'll use.
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Justin Jordan
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01-19-20 11:24 PM - Post#892901
Neither. Carrying heavy loads for long distances is how every soldier who's been in 4+ years, or everyone with a deployment, has injuries to knee, hip or lower back.
It's just about possible schlepping around about twice what most people ruck with for extended periods of times is a different animal than what's being discussed here.
Or should we not lift weights because powerlifters and bodybuilders pick up a lot of injuries too?
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Kiwi5
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01-20-20 12:38 AM - Post#892902
Why not both? Varied training. If rucking is the goal,then pack training is given. I'm partial to the vest however. The even distribution of weight has helped me (for example) at work where I carry a backpack spraying unit for multiple spray jobs. So there will be a transfer to rucking.
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DanMartin
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Wearing weights, whether a vest or a back pack is fraught with "what ifs" and most of them are negative.
You can get carried away with weighted carries, pun intended. Me, and I'm like an old mine mule, I can wear either one and go the distance. But why? My bench mark was really simple and straight forward...the Fire Service WCT or Work Capacity Test. Walking 3 miles in 45 minute while wearing a 45 pound vest.
Naturally, I could go longer and of course I could go heavier, but I saw no value in it. A 45 pound vest, depending, has me at almost 290-300 pounds total weight. At almost 66, well, my feet, ankles and knees let me know that that might be too much. YMMV
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Kiwi5
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01-20-20 03:40 PM - Post#892929
I'm interesting in hearing how 'wearing weights' is any more dangerous than 'lifting' weights? Depends on how the training is implemented, surely. I can visualize my weight vest being used for many years to come...given the GPP benefit I've acheived over the last six months, I'm more than a little confident that, with proper load and technique, the weight vest is no more (or less) dangerous than a KB clean and press (for example). I'll be adding the weight vest to my dips soon, and already use the vest for pushups and DB KB cleans. Dont forget the Lawnmowing...
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Neander
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I use a backpack with some plates wrapped in a towel in it.
Man, after an hour or so with it on your back, you get home, take it off and it feels like you can fly!
Anyone ever measure their vertical jump before and after ?
Life's too short to worry about longevity.
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Edited by Neander on 01-20-20 04:16 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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Andy Mitchell
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I’ve been walking (a lot) around Buenos Aires the last few days with a considerably heavy backpack consisting of camera equipment, water and such like...
I’ve never done hiking or rucking but I can say from the limited time I’ve done it I’m sure glad I was physically competent.
Which begs the question to get into shape you first need to be in shape,...
My idea of doing proper muscle building exercises very seldom to enjoy all other less safe activities hasn’t change me.
Nice legs-shame about the face
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DanMartin
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I’ve been walking (a lot) around Buenos Aires the last few days with a considerably heavy backpack consisting of camera equipment, water and such like...
I’ve never done hiking or rucking but I can say from the limited time I’ve done it I’m sure glad I was physically competent.
Which begs the question to get into shape you first need to be in shape,...
My idea of doing proper muscle building exercises very seldom to enjoy all other less safe activities hasn’t change me.
Andy, you are absolutely spot on about getting in shape to get in shape! Most folks want to get after it, which is cool. But they become bewildered when they end up sore and or injured. You have to build a base...which usually means the basics done consistently and safely.
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Andy Mitchell
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I’ve been walking (a lot) around Buenos Aires the last few days with a considerably heavy backpack consisting of camera equipment, water and such like...
I’ve never done hiking or rucking but I can say from the limited time I’ve done it I’m sure glad I was physically competent.
Which begs the question to get into shape you first need to be in shape,...
My idea of doing proper muscle building exercises very seldom to enjoy all other less safe activities hasn’t change me.
Andy, you are absolutely spot on about getting in shape to get in shape! Most folks want to get after it, which is cool. But they become bewildered when they end up sore and or injured. You have to build a base...which usually means the basics done consistently and safely.
It took years (for me) to actually grasp that Dan.
I was more ignorant.
Nice legs-shame about the face
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DanMartin
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I’ve been walking (a lot) around Buenos Aires the last few days with a considerably heavy backpack consisting of camera equipment, water and such like...
I’ve never done hiking or rucking but I can say from the limited time I’ve done it I’m sure glad I was physically competent.
Which begs the question to get into shape you first need to be in shape,...
My idea of doing proper muscle building exercises very seldom to enjoy all other less safe activities hasn’t change me.
Andy, you are absolutely spot on about getting in shape to get in shape! Most folks want to get after it, which is cool. But they become bewildered when they end up sore and or injured. You have to build a base...which usually means the basics done consistently and safely.
It took years (for me) to actually grasp that Dan.
I was more ignorant.
I would say you're pretty far from ignorant Andy. In fact, I know of no one who has dedicated themselves to the "Nautilus" way of doing things like you. I wish I lived next door, so we could train together, but I digress.
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Andy Mitchell
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I’m on an ocean liner heading for Antartica full of Americans and I love it.
I should’ve Been a yank.
Three people I would like to train with...one of them is you.
And I digress too
Nice legs-shame about the face
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Old Miler
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The backpack versus vest thing is likely highly individual. I remember when I was first a Dad, carrying a then-light son on a back-harness was OK, but a chest-harness would produce huge aches and pains.
And I've jogged 5 miles with a light pack on and off many times. Load pulling you away from the vertical is a killer; a chest-strap keeping load forward, or good waistband putting load nearer the hips, makes a huge difference.
So I'm happy to believe that an evenly distributed load is going to mess up your back much less that a back-pack.
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