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I thought I'd check ebay for a video of the Dave Draper movie "Don't Make Waves", didn't find any but there are quite a few posters and lobby cards.
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I went to see that movie when I was in 12 th grade .I really didn;t want to see it .The reason ?Back then alot of movies made bodybuilders look like jerks . I thought they would do the same with Dave Draper .To my surprise they didn;t .And Draper did a great job and I loved the movie .I saw with my girlfriend .That girlfriend became my wife two years later and still is !
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First movie I went to see right after getting my driver's license. Think that would have been maybe 1969. Summer of my 11th grade in high school or early Fall. Had to drive 20 mile to the nearest town that had a theater. Went by myself. Years later I drove 4 hours by myself to see Pumping Iron. Come to think of it, I went to the movies a lot by myself back then. Wonder why? Maybe somebody knew something I wasn't picking up on. They always say, "I sure wish I knew then what I know now". I'm still trying to figure out what it is I'm supposed to know now!
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I love Dave in that movie. A true class act. I recorded it on DVD, so I can play ot over and over again, and drive my wife crazy !!!!!
I'm a huge Tony Curtis fan as well, Houdini is AWESOME !!! Rather interesting is the fact that Tony Curtis is very lean in that movie, and he gives a great performance as well. I would say actors don't have to have big muscles to be enjoyed by a hardcore BB like me.!!!!!!
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david draper.. what about that sex thing?? ha
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"Don't make waves" - Dave saves the movie and makes it well worth the watch imo !! Art H.
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Hey guys wrong, Dave IS the movie. What ever happened in the west coast Mr. Big Boy Contest ?
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Well, that's a bummer..I don't get Turner. Can this be found on VHS or DVD? Maybe as a rental even?..
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Lon checked out the schedule a little more carefully and discovered it's really 4am on SATURDAY, even though it shows up on their Friday schedule. That's Eastern Time, by the way. Bill, it's out of print as a VHS now (never made it to DVD), but you may find it as a rental -- it's at two of our local rental stores. You can also pick up copies used, or as new "collector's" items sometimes.
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Thanks, Laree. I just set my VCR. Now I just have to remember to set the cable box before I go to bed Friday night. It's been years since I have seen the movie and I am looking forward to it.
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I stumbled on the listing and set the Tivo to record it last night. It will soon make it to DVD at my house! Decent flick, and you get to hear the Mountain speak too.
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Set the VCR and taped "Don't Make Waves" early this AM. Watched it for the first time ever this afternoon and thoroughly enjoyed it. Harry did a great job. The scene where Dave is doing seated presses behind neck on the beach. Was that set up just for the movie ? Or was there some sort of gym there ?
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I'm in the same boat looking for the movie in a dvd format. Richard Sanchez Quote:
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Well, that's a bummer..I don't get Turner. Can this be found on VHS or DVD? Maybe as a rental even?..
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Richard Sanchez said:I'm in the same boat looking for the movie in a dvd format. Me, too. Any word on DVD availability? -- Paul W.
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Dave looked great in that movie and a good actor also .I remember when it came out .I ran to the Theater to watch it .
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I don't think it came out on DVD, but there are a few copies of the out-of-print VHS tapes available through the Amazon.com re-sellers.
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Hmmmm...not on DVD eh?
I wonder how hard it would be to get the distribution rights, or at least instigate
a release?
Imagine an analog track with commentary by Dave and Tony Curtis http://www.tonycurtis.com/ !!!
Although would Dave be able to get an word in edgewise? LOL
Special features with footage from the original Muscle Beach ( nice tie in with that project, you know Bill Grant would jump all over it)
And as an added bonus include a disc of Dick Tyler's epic "Project Power" with commentary by Mr. Storyteller himself....
Just thinking out loud, I want to be sure that Laree and Dave do not have any idle time on her hands in these so called retirement years! ;)
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It is not available on DVD, although when it was on TCM, I taped it into to DVD with my DVD recorder. It makes great copies,
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I tell you this is the 4th failed attempt I have made to get the letterbox copy of this movie Help some body . I found this write up on the Turner website and thought I would share ... Southern California has often served as a whipping boy for satirists, with the emerging counter-culture of the sixties being one of the most obvious targets. Evelyn Waugh provided a wickedly funny critique of it - from pet cemetaries to the movie industry - in his novel, The Loved One, which director Tony Richardson transformed into a flamboyant, over-the-top black comedy in 1965. Other attempts to capture the region's cultural quirkiness and eccentricities on film include Lord Love a Duck (1966), Bob and Carol and Ted and Alice (1969) and Serial (1980), based on Cyra McFadden's column and best-selling book. Less well known than the above but an entertaining time capsule of its era nonetheless is Don't Make Waves, which looks better now than when it was first released in 1967. Based on the Ira Wallach novel, Muscle Beach, which poked fun at health and fitness fanatics, the film focuses on Carlo Cofield (Tony Curtis), a drifter who loses his car and all of his possessions in a freak accident within minutes of arriving at the coast. (In the book, Carlo is a recently fired college professor). In short order, he moves in with the woman (Claudia Cardinale) who caused the accident, the Italian mistress of a married businessman (Robert Webber), and bluffs his way into a job with her lover as a swimming pool salesman in Los Angeles. Along the way he encounters a variety of California "characters" including assorted bodybuilders and a female skydiver named Malibu (Sharon Tate). Carlo's lucky streak ends with the acquisition of a scenic hillside home overlooking the Pacific, a situation which has a comic payoff in the film's climactic mud slide. Producer Martin Ransohoff recruited British director Alexander Mackendrick for Don't Make Waves which might seem like an unlikely choice at first glance. But Mackendrick had already proven himself a sharp and witty observer of human foibles in such screen comedies as Whiskey Galore! (aka Tight Little Island, 1949), The Man in the White Suit (for which he received an Oscar® nomination in 1952), and The Ladykillers (1955). It also helped that he had worked well with Tony Curtis, the film's star, in a previous film, the highly acclaimed noir drama, Sweet Smell of Success (1957). The actual truth is that Mackendrick was tricked into making Don't Make Waves. As he revealed in Lethal Innocence: The Cinema of Alexander Mackendrick by Philip Kemp (Methuen), "That whole operation was Hollywood at its worst. I had an agent at that time - he's dead now - who was a buddy of Ransohoff's. The pair of them went to Tony [Curtis] and told him, "Sandy has this subject he's dying to make, and he got on very well with you - so he wants to know if you would do it, because it's something that's very dear to his heart." And then they came to me and said, "Tony Curtis has this subject that's very dear to his heart," and so on. We later found out both of us thought the material was absolute rubbish." From the very beginning, making the film proved to be an ordeal for Mackendrick. Ira Wallach, who based the screenplay on his novel, was forced to revise his script three times before leaving the project in frustration. The producers then brought in another writer, George Kirgo, who did not get along with the director. Mackendrick even tried to get taken off the project but was threatened with a lawsuit if he quit so he stayed and tried to make the best of a bad situation. Tony Curtis, in his autobiography co-written with Barry Paris, recalled that "Erich von Stroheim, Jr. was the assistant director on Don't Make Waves. He and Mackendrick hated each other...I think that experience with Erich junior was one of the things that soured Mackendrick on the business." Introducing another chaotic element into the mix was co-producer John Calley who brought in author and satirist Terry Southern (Candy, 1968) to provide additional dialogue during the final stages of production. According to Kemp's book on Mackendrick, it was common knowledge that Calley and Southern got high and sat up all night "writing funny, outrageous lines of dialogue. All the funniest stuff in the film, such as it was, was ad-libbed by Calley and Southern." Yet, despite Mackendrick's own harsh assessment of Don't Make Waves, the film is often surprisingly funny and full of incidental pleasures. For one thing, Curtis is perfectly cast as the shyster pool salesman; his Carlo Cofield could be a distant cousin of Sweet Smell of Success's Sidney Falco, albeit a more benign and ineffective version. Philip Lathrop's bright, sun-kissed cinematography perfectly captures the Malibu vibe and Ms. Tate, in one of her final films (despite a screen credit that reads "Introducing Sharon Tate"), is both enigmatic and vacuous as Carlo's sexual fantasy; her trampoline scene is a voyeuristic high point. There are also amusing cameo appearances by Jim Backus (playing himself as a potential customer of Carlo's), comedian Mort Sahl, and, strangest of all, ventriloquist Edgar Bergen as "Madame Lavinia," a syndicated newspaper astrologist. The sight gags are also occasionally inspired, especially one involving Carlo's cliffside house which at the film's end is about to slide into the sea. Mackendrick admits that the scene was a steal from Chaplin's The Gold Rush (1925) but it works beautifully in conveying the fragile, quixotic nature of life in Southern California. The skydiving sequence is also memorable though the parachute jump required 35 attempts before they got a perfect take and in a tragic turn of events, one of the stuntmen, Bob Buquor, drowned off the Malibu coast while shooting this sequence. Don't Make Waves opened to mostly mixed reviews but Andrew Sarris of the Village Voice called it "one of the most underrated comedies of the season" and another reviewer called it "the one gem out of nine million bad Tony Curtis comedy vehicles." The jury is still out on whether the film will ever attract a cult following but this much is certain - it marked the end of Mackendrick's film career. After completing it, he tried - and failed - to raise financing for two long-cherished personal projects - Rhinoceros and Mary Queen of Scots - which eventually were made without his involvement. Instead, Mackendrick retired from filmmaking and began a teaching career at the California Institute of the Arts. Producer: Julian Bercovici, John Calley, Martin Ransohoff Director: Alexander Mackendrick Screenplay: George Kirgo, Maurice Richlin, Terry Southern, Ira Wallach (novel) Cinematography: Philip H. Lathrop Film Editing: Rita Roland, Thomas Stanford Art Direction: Edward C. Carfagno, George W. Davis Music: Chris Hillman, Jim McGuinn, Vic Mizzy Cast: Tony Curtis (Carlo Cofield), Claudia Cardinale (Laura Califatti), Robert Webber (Rod Prescott), Joanna Barnes (Diane Prescott), Sharon Tate (Malibu), David Draper (Harry Hollard).
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It is not available on DVD, although when it was on TCM, I taped it into to DVD with my DVD recorder. It makes great copies,
Greg
If that's an offer Greg, I'm all over it!!
I wanted to tape the show but alas, after blowing the dust off of our last remaining VCR, it had already passed its time... RIP.
I watched the snipit via the link Laree sent us. I sure would like to see this film in its entirty.
Let me know what I need to do to get a copy from you...
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Will the movie be shown at the Santa Cruz theatre at the last Bash? We can only hope... Richard Sanchez Quote:
Laree said:
I don't think it came out on DVD, but there are a few copies of the out-of-print VHS tapes available through the Amazon.com re-sellers.
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Hmmmm...not on DVD eh?
I wonder how hard it would be to get the distribution rights, or at least instigate
a release?
Imagine an analog track with commentary by Dave and Tony Curtis http://www.tonycurtis.com/ !!!
Although would Dave be able to get an word in edgewise? LOL
Special features with footage from the original Muscle Beach ( nice tie in with that project, you know Bill Grant would jump all over it)
And as an added bonus include a disc of Dick Tyler's epic "Project Power" with commentary by Mr. Storyteller himself....
Just thinking out loud, I want to be sure that Laree and Dave do not have any idle time on her hands in these so called retirement years! ;)
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Will the movie be shown at the Santa Cruz theatre at the last Bash?
Maybe, but we really haven't made any plans at this point. As I mentioned in a different thread, BK, DM, DD and I are getting together in March or April to figure out the details.
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i found the movie very enjoyable. dave's character reminded me of a nice blond bodybuilder i dated some time ago. he had a great body, but was very slow in thought...brought back aloot of memories... :)
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Hey Laree did Dave ever say to you why he didn;t make more movies ? I am no movie expert but I thought he did a very good job in that movie .I was kinda of proud of him not being the usually muscle head type that they.They meaning Hollywood showed back then .Did Arnold ever ask him to be in any of his movies ?
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Yes, he was cute, huh? :~) Dave did a few smaller roles, and he did his regular Saturday night David the Gladiator television bit for about a year, but really, he didn't much like it, so I guess that's why it didn't go on longer.
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I've never seen the hardships described before. Dave said it was tough on everyone; I think the producer ran out of money somewhere along the line, too. But in the end they finished with a film that we're still watching and talking about nearly 40 years later, so I guess it worked! Some of you remember this: After one phase of the filming, but before they were done, Dave went off to compete and win the 1966 Mr. Universe. (Those with an alert eye can see the difference between the bulked Harry Hollard and the contest-ready Mr. Big Boy.) Anyway, when he got back to the set after winning the title, someone in the art department had drawn up a "Super Oscar for Mr. Universe -- We're proud of you" and had it matted, signed by the entire crew and framed. There's probably 50 signatures on this thing -- Tony Curtis, Sharon Tate, Claudia Cardinale, a lot I can't read it's so old and faded. John Calley signed it... before he went on to become the president of Sony Pictures.
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Very cool Lon,
Thanks for your continued efforts in getting this on the board.
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I've never seen the hardships described before. Dave said it was tough on everyone; I think the producer ran out of money somewhere along the line, too. But in the end they finished with a film that we're still watching and talking about nearly 40 years later, so I guess it worked!
Some of you remember this: After one phase of the filming, but before they were done, Dave went off to compete and win the 1966 Mr. Universe. (Those with an alert eye can see the difference between the bulked Harry Hollard and the contest-ready Mr. Big Boy.) Anyway, when he got back to the set after winning the title, someone in the art department had drawn up a "Super Oscar for Mr. Universe -- We're proud of you" and had it matted, signed by the entire crew and framed.
There's probably 50 signatures on this thing -- Tony Curtis, Sharon Tate, Claudia Cardinale, a lot I can't read it's so old and faded. John Calley signed it... before he went on to become the president of Sony Pictures.
That is so cool Laree. Thanks for sharing.
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Thanks for the reply Laree .
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Yes, he was cute, huh? :~)
Dave did a few smaller roles, and he did his regular Saturday night David the Gladiator television bit for about a year, but really, he didn't much like it, so I guess that's why it didn't go on longer.
Laree, Dave IS still cute. At least that's what my wife said, when he met Dave at the book signing. She said , "Greg, to bad Dave is married !!!!!"
Greg
Laree , Don't get jealous. You still have Dave all to yourself,
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Yikes! I didn't mean it that way! ouch. Of course I meant "cute role" -- as in, that was a cute role, huh?
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Yes Dave was in a "Cute Roll".
Laree take it as a compliment !!!!
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Was that Bill"Peanuts"West I saw in a scene talking to Dave ? I think it was when Sharon was bouncing on the trampoline ?
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No, I think the trampoline scene was Dave, Chet Yorton and Reg Lewis.
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Dave was seated with his back to the camera and Bill West was seated at Dave's side and they appeared to be talking ?
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Dave says yes! Good eye, CB! I thought you were talking about this scene:  And don't forget this one!  Dave said there was another scene you may have noticed wherein Peanuts was in the background bench pressing, for which he insisted on using two plates. Well, that particular scene took 26 takes... for reps... :~)
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Laree,
Is the first pic at the beach a set for the movie or was there a gym already there ?
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Laree,
I often thought they used lighter weights than they were capable of in the movies because of the number of takes. Geez Bill got a heck of a workout that day. Please give us a heads up if you find out "Lord Love A Duck" is going to be aired on one of the cable channels. I've not seen it yet either.
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Is the first pic at the beach a set for the movie or was there a gym already there ?
CB
Dave says it was a set for the movie, built in Malibu where they filmed most of the flick.
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The jury is still out on whether the film will ever attract a cult following - I reread that article I posted and have this Idea . I propose maybe a poll to raise a count of people who potentually purchase a Factory DVD of This Movie. Time Warner might just consider a release if enough of us are a cult following of this movie. We could send the poll to Turner and who Knows . What do you think . I for one want a dvd of it . Lonster
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I'm in.
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Highly doubtfull a pre-recorded DVD will be realeased. It has been alomst 30 years. I have it , if anyone needs a copy let me know,DVD-R.By the way Dvd-R looks really good,
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I'd like to see a factory recorded DVD. Ken F
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My youngest daughter [21] was interested in "Don't Make Waves" after seeing a biography or something on the E Channel on Sharon Tate, whom she was much too young to be familar with.
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I'd buy it in DVD. I already own the VHS version but we all now those don't last forever. Art H.
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I just came home from Wal Mart with "Red Sonja" on Dvd for $10. Y'know I'm gonna get "Waves"
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