07-18-09 08:15 PM - Post#567249    

It's all here:
Ruin the shoelace.
The get up teaching...the whole bit.



And, to remind everyone:

Turkish Get Up Progression:


Roll to side (I call this "Cuddle") (Be sure when on your back put your right ear to the ground at least once and your left ear to the ground at least once)

Up to elbow (Raise your "straight leg" up and down a few times)

Up to post (I call this the "T Position" like I use in explaining the discus) (I also look back and forth at both hands a few times, too) (Do the leg raises, too)

To high hips (The Key. Hold the Hips High for a while and keep stretching the "Four Knots")


Rarely do we finish the exercise for throwers...but, here you go:

To kneel
To stand and then back down.


The "Four Knots:" Right shoulder, left shoulder, right hip, left hip.

They are also the Fence Posts that hold the "chain link" fence (the core, but I loath that term)

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Edited by Dan John on 07-19-09 07:09 PM. Reason for edit: I continue to love each and everyone of you and I think that editing these posts to make them better and better makes me feel extremely happy inside and I was just wondering how much I could type in this thing....

The Hips High Position in Throwing.
07-19-09 02:02 AM - Post#567269    

Dan, if u ever wanted to get a suggestion for an article its here.
Can u share any info on this?!!?!

My problem is I have trouble finishing the throw here. Once I turn my right leg in to bring fourth the hips I try to push off with that leg and once I feel the weight transfer I throw.

Discus/Hammer Goals: SQ:450, BP:350, CL:300 Discus: 180+, Hammer: 200+

07-19-09 04:45 PM - Post#567381    

The head position is a great cue. I have a habit of pulling my head hard to the right, whick keeps the left bent too long. The hips up from the TGU is helping with muscle memory at the end of the throw.

07-19-09 06:01 PM - Post#567395    

moofs, I can't get a handle on the question.

the only thing I can tell you is to throw (a lot) with soft legs, don't straighten them at all. Just feel the hips lead and release. Get a can out there and aim for it and don't go for max. Easy soft leg throws.

You can't train technique with max intensity very often (maybe ever?)...

Try the soft legs training.

Daniel John Just handing down what I was handed down... Make a Difference. Live. Love. Laugh. Balance work, rest, play and pray (enjoy beauty and solitude) Sleep soundly. Drink Water. Eat veggies and protein. Walk. Wear your seat belt. Don’t smoke. Floss your teeth. Put weights overhead. Pick weights off the floor. Carry weights. Reread great books. Say thank you

07-19-09 09:31 PM - Post#567415    

I need to do more of this.
Didn't throw as well as I expected today.

"No excuses, no explanations" Tony Dungy "You can't always control what happens to you, but you can always control how you respond." Left Handed Freak

08-05-09 12:17 AM - Post#571088    

Dani Samuels, - every now and then a kid comes along who is a world beater, never kicks on, new year new kid, and the cycle goes on...and then along came Dani....

fingers crossed for Berlin


oh yeah, better do the "Aussie Aussie Aussie Oi Oi Oi...."

"We all overtrain" Pat Casey to George Frenn

08-24-09 08:27 AM - Post#574333    

Can anyone point me to some videos of the thrower in the picture above? Still pictures are great but I seem to be able to learn even more from video or a series of stop action pics. Thanks

08-24-09 08:30 AM - Post#574335    

Go to youtube.com and type in Dani Samuels. There is a whole bunch from the worlds...

Daniel John Just handing down what I was handed down... Make a Difference. Live. Love. Laugh. Balance work, rest, play and pray (enjoy beauty and solitude) Sleep soundly. Drink Water. Eat veggies and protein. Walk. Wear your seat belt. Don’t smoke. Floss your teeth. Put weights overhead. Pick weights off the floor. Carry weights. Reread great books. Say thank you

08-24-09 11:56 AM - Post#574377    

Thanks for edit in the original post Dan. I'm feelin' the love.

Today...give all that you have. For what you keep inside, you lose forever. ~Owen Marecic~ Steve's athletic-art.com IronLoft Training YouTube

08-24-09 02:18 PM - Post#574399    

Thanks Dan. I'm trying to get a collection of videos of the better lady throwers to show my junior high and HS girl throwers - they keep saying - "but he's a guy - he's bigger, or stronger, or whatever". Hopefully showing them some video - especially of girls with good technique and big throws will help them realize whats possible for them.

08-24-09 02:23 PM - Post#574400    

Stef's gold medal throw from Bejing and the World winner by Dani...best I've seen.

Daniel John Just handing down what I was handed down... Make a Difference. Live. Love. Laugh. Balance work, rest, play and pray (enjoy beauty and solitude) Sleep soundly. Drink Water. Eat veggies and protein. Walk. Wear your seat belt. Don’t smoke. Floss your teeth. Put weights overhead. Pick weights off the floor. Carry weights. Reread great books. Say thank you

The Hips High Position in Throwing.
08-25-09 11:08 PM - Post#574696    

Any recommendations of a good TGU video on youtube?

I've tried it once, and sadly, got confused as hell.

"Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited, whereas imagination embraces the entire world, stimulating progress, giving birth to evolution." - Albert Einstein http://nielpatel.blogspot.com

Edited by Niel Patel on 08-25-09 11:08 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

08-25-09 11:30 PM - Post#574697    

Buy "Kalos Stenos." Sometimes for free you get less than you paid for it.

Daniel John Just handing down what I was handed down... Make a Difference. Live. Love. Laugh. Balance work, rest, play and pray (enjoy beauty and solitude) Sleep soundly. Drink Water. Eat veggies and protein. Walk. Wear your seat belt. Don’t smoke. Floss your teeth. Put weights overhead. Pick weights off the floor. Carry weights. Reread great books. Say thank you

08-26-09 06:19 PM - Post#574800    

Ah, another item on the "things to buy" list.

Might not purchase it any time soon, but sometime in the future for sure.

"Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited, whereas imagination embraces the entire world, stimulating progress, giving birth to evolution." - Albert Einstein http://nielpatel.blogspot.com

08-27-09 08:09 PM - Post#574960    

When I played back her throws in slo mo, I was amazed at her right foot in the centre when she lands. Text book.

"We all overtrain" Pat Casey to George Frenn

10-12-09 04:37 PM - Post#583403    

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10-23-09 01:27 AM - Post#585411    

Re Dani Samuels - shoelace destroyer

Glenn Thompson has been in touch with Denis and hopefully something will be forthcoming in Long Strong Throwing Journal, next year.

I bumped into Peter Farmer at the Masters Games in Sydney this month, and he is quiet proud of Dani's result.

Did some research on Peter and apart from his 12th in Montreal and 3rd in 77 World Cup the most striking thing was he was the only Australian man to medal in our Commonwealth games in the throws between 1966 and 1982. Peter is appointed throwing coach at our Institute of sport mid 80's and 1986 we had 5 medalists.

Sometimes you can make progress swimming against the tide.

"We all overtrain" Pat Casey to George Frenn

12-01-09 07:30 PM - Post#592474    

Hello everybody,
My name is Mike Apple and i am wanting to get into throwing and the highland games. Is there any HG competitors in the Oklahoma, ft. smith ark area.

12-01-09 08:17 PM - Post#592485    

I talked with Dan John earlier about getting ready for the HG. He was a great help and I thought I would share the suggestions he gave me.
...Do the Big 21 program without adding to it, i tend to be an overachiever.
...Big 21 for 3 weeks take a week off, Big 21 again for another 3 weeks take a week off, then i can do the 5-3-1 program with vo2 max thrown in then some medicine ball throwing to work on technique of throwing and working on my footwork.
...get a dynamax 6 to 8 lb medicine ball for throwing.
...go to dynamax website and look up the solo exercises program and start doing it.
...read his article about thinking and throwing through
... find a hg competitor in my area and see if they will help
...BUY A KILT
...COMPETE

04-19-10 01:38 PM - Post#619027    

Sunday I have the privilege of working shot putt with Adrianne Blewitt. I finally "get it" now about the hips high. Of course now I have to get these old bones to actually do it. I hope it will help to actually have an idea of "what" I'm trying to do. Why is it that "simple" is so darn complicated? :)

The Hips High Position in Throwing.
10-28-10 08:36 AM - Post#656173    

Discus Throw is a very amazing game and played by both male and female. This is one of the best technically played sport. I always like to watch this game. While playing this game positioning of the body plays major role in perfect throw.



Edited by fiidoljiw on 10-28-10 08:42 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

The Hips High Position in Throwing.
10-31-10 06:39 AM - Post#656742    

Chris, that's awesome that you got to throw with Adriane! I've seen her name all over the NASGA results page and she has some huge throws.

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Edited by Ben Edwards on 10-31-10 06:39 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

12-22-11 08:27 PM - Post#717478    

Still can't go the laying down -> forearm on the floor bit properly. Always doing a sit up instead.

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08-01-12 09:49 AM - Post#741396    

• blkjss Said:

Think specifically of transferring your weight onto the forearm. It may be unconscious soon enough but the idea is to shift weight using the same technique as a roll or cuddle, while engaging strength to keep that KB up, and put the weight onto the forearm - 'least, that's how I run it.

03-29-13 01:46 AM - Post#766268    

• conwict2 Said:

I forgot to thank conwict2 for this useful pointer.
Thanks, mate.

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04-05-13 09:24 AM - Post#766956    

Just look at a photo of me throwing a discus.
Gosh! It is a TGU!

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