Just running through Craigslist and saw this iconic piece of equipment listed for sale. Thought I'd post it here just in case an IOL'er might be interested.
The pullover machine is one of the few machines that are not a poor excuse for the free-weight alternative. Others that come to mind are the lat pulldown, seated row, cable crossover, and the seated and standing calf.
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Agreed! A machine worth its weight in gold. Such a glorious feeling to superset this with the incline bench press.
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I just checked and it's at 800.00 now.I used to workout on one.I put several inches on my upper body with this thing.I'd love to have it but too many other irons in the fire right now.When I win the lotto I'm gonna buy the whole nautilus set up!
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I just think a lot of the older nautilus machines are fantastic.
The duo squat was the Rolls Royce you could have you knee behind your ear if you wanted to with no loading on the back and knee.
Id love one, I think there are only a few in australia
I'm fifty one this year and been using these machines for twenty.
I'm relocating my nautilus stuff that ive collected over the years to a local football club soon.
I wanted my friends to help but all of them have some structural issues, bad backs, hammies, shoulders and such.
Yeah, it was the only Nat machine I used at the gym I went to. I could do the whole stack 20 times. Hell of a pump. If I had the cash and was in Texas I'd drive it home in my pickup
I didn't have a Nautilus but had an old Jubinville knockoff pullover machine in my home gym years ago. I miss the pullover type of machines. They worked the lats in a special way and didn't involve the triceps as much as using a cable does. Also, I could handle really heavy weights which I can't on the cable. Wish they had one at the Gold's I go to. There was one in a World Gym I went to on LI but haven't used one since I donated my entire home gym to my school district when I retired.
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Thanks, Andy. I don't see that the machine looks much different than any lat pulldown though. The pulley looks like a circular one rather than the elliptical "nautilus" type.
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"You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they could and should do for themselves." - Abraham Lincoln
"I live, I lift, I ache, I am." - Dave Draper
"Moderation assures mediocrity -- nice, safe. Mediocrity is for the mediocre -- simple, okay. The intense rule; the mediocre follow." - Dave Draper
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Thanks, Andy. I don't see that the machine looks much different than any lat pulldown though. The pulley looks like a circular one rather than the elliptical "nautilus" type.
It's different, once you've tried you will notice, leaning forward and pulling down, rather than leaning back and pulling to the chest.
The large cam is on the other side of the rather large cog.
Thanks, Andy. I don't see that the machine looks much different than any lat pulldown though. The pulley looks like a circular one rather than the elliptical "nautilus" type.
The nautilus book was one of the few I read, it was given to me by a friend. It's been a long time but if i remember correctly the design of the cam was to place equal resistance throughout the full range of motion.
For example, in a standing barbell or dumbbell curl, the plane of resistance is vertical. During the first third and last third of the exercise, because the arm is moving away from the body at the beginning and then toward the body at the end, during those parts of the movement, the bicep encounters less resistance than in the middle third of the movement.
The cam was designed to keep constant resistance throughout the range of motion, at least that's how i remember it.
In a lat pulldown the arms arms are pulling in the same plane as the resistance, so there would be no need for the cam, unless you wanted to front load it or back load or even load it in the middle, like using bands or chains.
When I first used that particular piece, the resistance felt uneven, not smooth, after a few goes, it now feels very smooth, and it's a tough one to work on, I feel my whole back contracting and there is no escape.
Here are some links showing the old style Nautilus pulldown. You sat with your back to the weight stack, leaned forward while pulling with a medium width parallel grip.
The new Nautilus Pulldown One seems to be a leverage type machine.
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Can't see the cam in the second one but the cams in the first vid are definitely "nautilus" type. In the drawing that Andy posted, the cam looks like a regular one. Maybe it is just the way the drawing looks or the cam is hidden behind the other. I like the way the lats are functioning in the demo video. I would imagine the patents have run out by now so I wonder why other companies have abandoned the use of these type of cams.
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"You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they could and should do for themselves." - Abraham Lincoln
"I live, I lift, I ache, I am." - Dave Draper
"Moderation assures mediocrity -- nice, safe. Mediocrity is for the mediocre -- simple, okay. The intense rule; the mediocre follow." - Dave Draper
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If I remember correctly, the Nautilus pulldown had a chain instead of a cable. There was also some sort of brake that made you move the weight slowly throughout the entire movement. You couldn't use momentum.
There was another machine for lats that I liked a lot. I think it was made by Nautilus. Instead of pulling a bar down in front of you, there were two round pads that you pushed down along your sides from an overhead position in a kind of "swimming underwater" motion. It hit the back in a way that would be hard to duplicate. I was very disappointed when the gym took it out, because there was nothing wrong with it, and they replaced it with a standard lat pulldown machine. This was about 20 years ago. I haven't seen one since.
“As to methods, there may be a million and then some, but principles are few. The man who grasps principles can successfully select his own methods. The man who tries methods, ignoring principles, is sure to have trouble. ~ Emersonâ€
― Dan John, Mass Made Simple
The image must be blocked here. I'll have to check it out later on a different computer.
“As to methods, there may be a million and then some, but principles are few. The man who grasps principles can successfully select his own methods. The man who tries methods, ignoring principles, is sure to have trouble. ~ Emersonâ€
― Dan John, Mass Made Simple
i just bought a nautilus overhead press, from the nitro series, i love it. I train w/ nautilus all the time, i love hit its the best, if anyone is interested check out my training partner's website for cool info: http://www.highintensityheadquarters .com/
You are correct Wicked. Joe and not Mike Mentzer. Thanks, Jim. I thought that was Joe.
Also, The way Sergio is doing it is not the way Arthur wanted you to do it. When done the way that Sergio is doing it, the original purpose of the movement is lessened, if not lost entirely. Sergio's way increases the contribution of the pectorals and the frontal deltoids. Done like Joe and Mike are doing it, the movement is primarily for the teres major and the latissimus dorsi.
Wicked
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"Jesus said to him, I am the way, the truth, and the life:
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There is a way to try to mimic this movement (pullover) with either a bar or gymnastic rings. The range of motion is smaller, but there is a definite effect.
Its called a front lever chest roll. Its a beginner's progression to the front lever. It can be done as an isometric hold or you can lift up and down for reps. Keep the arms straight/locked.
The chest roll up basically looks like the first 10% of a straight-arm pulldown, which I've always done in lieu of machine pullovers when at a gym that doesn't have one.
I agree, but I feel the lat and ab contraction is much more intense if the chest rolls are performed properly. The brachialis also takes a big hit. I was surprised at the increase in arm flexor development after a few weeks of these.
Progressing into the next level (tuck front lever) is much more intense.
I definitely see the value in front lever work. All of the progressions are quite challenging.
I love the nautilus side lateral machine, so much easier on the joint and you can really feel the heads of your entire delt contracting. I almost bought an overhead press from the nitro series to superset with the side lat machine. but these other ways with both the lat pulldown and the chin bar on the cage are killer!
My dad traded some work for this Nautilus shoulder press. I've been using it since I started working out. I love it. It's one of the only machines I use on shoulder day other than Smith military every now and then.
I am so pumped for the HIT seminar in Phx! Gonna be great for info check out www.highintensityheadquarters .com! Any feedback on the best generation of nautilus ?
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