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Display Name Post: Advice on where & how to add strength days to Olympic weightlifting training        (Topic#23518)
jfox 
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02-22-10 01:56 PM - Post#607265    

Hello,

I've just started Olympic weightlifting training last week, training is on a Wednesday and Friday for about two hours. In these two hours we do the Olympic lifts and power cleans. I can also train on a Monday and Thursday and I'm hoping for some advice on how to incorporate some strength training into this routine. I'm not very strong so I want to increase my strength to help with the Olympic weightlifting.

My idea is
Monday
3x5 squat
5x5 squat (with a lower weight)
3x5 military press
5x5 military press (with a lower weight)

Wednesday
Olympic weighting training
3x5 military press
5x5 military press (with a lower weight)

Friday
Olympic weightlifting training
3x5 squat
5x5 squat (with a lower weight)

I'll be squatting, military pressing and pulling twice a week.

Or maybe on Monday 3x5 squat, military press, a pull. Wednesday and Friday Olympic lifts, 3x5 squat and military press.

I'm a beginner in regards to strength training.

Any advice greatly appreciated, thanks.

 
DanMartin 
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02-22-10 01:58 PM - Post#607266    

I always thought people did Olympic lifting to get strong.
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cajinjohn 
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02-22-10 02:07 PM - Post#607268    

So did I. Change those squats to front squats. Also do overhead squats holding the bar in a snatch width grip.
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USAWA 
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02-22-10 02:13 PM - Post#607269    

I would get Tommy Kono's book.

 
jfox 
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02-22-10 02:32 PM - Post#607271    

That's partly why I choose to do Olympic weightlifting to get strong, but I have time to train an extra two days on top of the Olympic weightlifting training. The coach said not to train the Olympic lifts on my own as I may be doing it wrong. So I'm looking to add a day or two of some other strength training. Thanks.

Thanks for the book suggestion.

 
johnnya 
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02-22-10 02:41 PM - Post#607272    

You haven't listed your age or numbers (weight or lifts). That's a lot of volume, so if you're young and in school go for it.
I second the caijun and say more front squatting.
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Teddy Moore 
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Re: Advice on where & how to add strength days to Olympic weightlifting training
02-22-10 06:47 PM - Post#607314    

  • jfox Said:
Hello,

I've just started Olympic weightlifting training last week, training is on a Wednesday and Friday for about two hours. In these two hours we do the Olympic lifts and power cleans. I can also train on a Monday and Thursday and I'm hoping for some advice on how to incorporate some strength training into this routine. I'm not very strong so I want to increase my strength to help with the Olympic weightlifting.

My idea is
Monday
3x5 squat
5x5 squat (with a lower weight)
3x5 military press
5x5 military press (with a lower weight)

Wednesday
Olympic weighting training
3x5 military press
5x5 military press (with a lower weight)

Friday
Olympic weightlifting training
3x5 squat
5x5 squat (with a lower weight)

I'll be squatting, military pressing and pulling twice a week.

Or maybe on Monday 3x5 squat, military press, a pull. Wednesday and Friday Olympic lifts, 3x5 squat and military press.

I'm a beginner in regards to strength training.

Any advice greatly appreciated, thanks.


You're a beginner. I'd peruse the Duane Hansen program thread or there is another program in the issues of get-up that has you work up to 10 singles in snatch then clean and press(or vice versa) 3-5 days a week. You need reps. You will get more improvement from those reps that doing other "strength" stuff. If you want to focus on Olifts that's where I'd start.

 
Terry Gibbs 
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02-22-10 07:45 PM - Post#607333    

  • DanMartin Said:
I always thought people did Olympic lifting to get strong.




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eleiko66 
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02-23-10 02:45 PM - Post#607508    

You have a coach -- I'd ask him what he thinks about extra work, that way he knows what you've been up to and how it will effect your lifts.

Technique is most important now. Develop speed. When those are dialed in you can reverse priorities and focus on strength.

Military press could actually hamper your jerk in some situations depending on your form.

Squats are always good. But again, how is your technique?

Use your coach first.

It's good to learn as much as you can from books, videos and the internet and then ask your coach about what you're learning, seeing and hearing from others. Use his approach/knowledge as a filter to compare/contrast methods and other philosophies and over time you can develop your own.

Passion is great, but if you try everything at once you won't get anywhere.
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To do is to be. Satre
Do be do be do. Sinatra


 
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