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Display Name Post: Article: "How to combine creatine and caffeine – and how not to"        (Topic#23515)
warty 
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02-22-10 10:29 AM - Post#607208    

http://www.ergo-log.com/creatinecaffeine.html

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If you take creatine, high daily doses of caffeine will cancel out its effect. But the effect of caffeine is apparently not so strong that it’s no use at all to creatine takers. A one-time high dose of caffeine does have an effect. So during a course of creatine you could occasionally use caffeine as a training booster. Taking caffeine daily is not a good idea though.



The article discusses three studies that looked at creatine usage with caffeine. The result is that caffeine reduces the levels of creatine in muscles.

It does not take much caffeine either. In the first study, 45 daily grams of creatine was ineffective when combined with 450 mg of caffeine. I likely have that much caffeine (or more) per day right now and I'm not even taking creatine.

Anyway, food for thought. If I had not just purchased a kilogram can of coffee, I may have considered trying decaf.
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02-22-10 10:34 AM - Post#607209    

I drink more than that a day as well, seen no adverse effects... hmmm wonder what would happen if I stopped... whoa WHOA! What am I saying, lost it there for a moment.
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warty 
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02-22-10 01:26 PM - Post#607260    

Hahah yeah :) I was thinking that a lot of "creatine non-responders" might just happen to be coffee drinkers.
"Mens sana in corpore sano"
----
"Simply being amid the iron and at work is a triumph.
You hear the metal, feel its coolness, leverage its gravity and fight the fight.
You finish with a smile somewhere on your face and joy someplace in your heart and an ache of fulfillment all over."


 
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02-22-10 01:41 PM - Post#607263    

  • Manor Said:
I drink more than that a day as well, seen no adverse effects... hmmm wonder what would happen if I stopped... whoa WHOA! What am I saying, lost it there for a moment.


Spoken like a true Canadian(well if you like Timmy's)

 
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02-22-10 06:40 PM - Post#607311    

So much for dumping creatine into my morning mug of coffee. Sheesh!
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02-23-10 03:53 AM - Post#607398    

I drink a lot of coffee and i'm sure creatine works for me.

I have read about this other places too though. One thought i have is maybe if caffeine reduces creatine in your body then coffee drinkers should be the first to use creatine since they will already be low on it.
Best thread ever! :)


 
Manor 
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02-23-10 09:33 AM - Post#607424    

  • bulch Said:
I drink a lot of coffee and i'm sure creatine works for me.

I have read about this other places too though. One thought i have is maybe if caffeine reduces creatine in your body then coffee drinkers should be the first to use creatine since they will already be low on it.



That would seem to make sense.

I don't use creatine I drinks lots of coffee (Timmies) haven't seen a problem. Maybe something the old farts need to worry about?
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Teddy Moore 
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02-23-10 10:01 AM - Post#607434    

  • Manor Said:
  • bulch Said:
I drink a lot of coffee and i'm sure creatine works for me.

I have read about this other places too though. One thought i have is maybe if caffeine reduces creatine in your body then coffee drinkers should be the first to use creatine since they will already be low on it.



That would seem to make sense.

I don't use creatine I drinks lots of coffee (Timmies) haven't seen a problem. Maybe something the old farts need to worry about?


Ah, I miss the multiple weekly attendance to the Timmies Church of the Java Bean. "For those about to partake of the Java Bean I salute you."

 
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02-23-10 05:45 PM - Post#607544    

  • bulch Said:
I drink a lot of coffee and i'm sure creatine works for me.

I have read about this other places too though. One thought i have is maybe if caffeine reduces creatine in your body then coffee drinkers should be the first to use creatine since they will already be low on it.



But then I've heard many say they workout harder and longer with caffeine in the system... Who knows what the heck is going on anyway? The more I learn the less I know! I better quit learning so much as pretty soon I won't have a clue!

Dang, too late.

Cliff



 
bulch 
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02-24-10 04:06 AM - Post#607611    

  • Cliff Said:
  • bulch Said:
I drink a lot of coffee and i'm sure creatine works for me.

I have read about this other places too though. One thought i have is maybe if caffeine reduces creatine in your body then coffee drinkers should be the first to use creatine since they will already be low on it.



But then I've heard many say they workout harder and longer with caffeine in the system... Who knows what the heck is going on anyway? The more I learn the less I know! I better quit learning so much as pretty soon I won't have a clue!

Dang, too late.

Cliff





Lol. I know what you mean. I wish i could go back to when i was 16 and i knew it all.
Best thread ever! :)


 
warty 
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02-24-10 10:43 AM - Post#607678    

Personally I find a jolt of caffeine gets me started in a workout but makes it more difficult as time goes on. It sucks when your heart just won't slow down.
"Mens sana in corpore sano"
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"Simply being amid the iron and at work is a triumph.
You hear the metal, feel its coolness, leverage its gravity and fight the fight.
You finish with a smile somewhere on your face and joy someplace in your heart and an ache of fulfillment all over."


 
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