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Display Name Post: The Hips High Position in Throwing.        (Topic#21582)
Dan John 
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07-18-09 08:15 PM - Post#567249    

It's all here:
Ruin the shoelace.
The get up teaching...the whole bit.



And, to remind everyone:

Turkish Get Up Progression:


Roll to side (I call this "Cuddle") (Be sure when on your back put your right ear to the ground at least once and your left ear to the ground at least once)

Up to elbow (Raise your "straight leg" up and down a few times)

Up to post (I call this the "T Position" like I use in explaining the discus) (I also look back and forth at both hands a few times, too) (Do the leg raises, too)

To high hips (The Key. Hold the Hips High for a while and keep stretching the "Four Knots")


Rarely do we finish the exercise for throwers...but, here you go:

To kneel
To stand and then back down.


The "Four Knots:" Right shoulder, left shoulder, right hip, left hip.

They are also the Fence Posts that hold the "chain link" fence (the core, but I loath that term)
Never Let Go.

Dan John


Edited by Dan John on 07-19-09 07:09 PM. Reason for edit: I continue to love each and everyone of you and I think that editing these posts to make them better and better makes me feel extremely happy inside and I was just wondering how much I could type in this thing....

 
moofs 
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The Hips High Position in Throwing.
07-19-09 02:02 AM - Post#567269    

Dan, if u ever wanted to get a suggestion for an article its here.
Can u share any info on this?!!?!

My problem is I have trouble finishing the throw here. Once I turn my right leg in to bring fourth the hips I try to push off with that leg and once I feel the weight transfer I throw.

Discus/Hammer

Goals:
SQ:450, BP:350, CL:300
Discus: 180+, Hammer: 200+


 
Gary John 
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07-19-09 04:45 PM - Post#567381    

The head position is a great cue. I have a habit of pulling my head hard to the right, whick keeps the left bent too long. The hips up from the TGU is helping with muscle memory at the end of the throw.

 
Dan John 
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07-19-09 06:01 PM - Post#567395    

moofs, I can't get a handle on the question.

the only thing I can tell you is to throw (a lot) with soft legs, don't straighten them at all. Just feel the hips lead and release. Get a can out there and aim for it and don't go for max. Easy soft leg throws.

You can't train technique with max intensity very often (maybe ever?)...

Try the soft legs training.
Never Let Go.

Dan John


 
Lonnie Wade 
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07-19-09 09:31 PM - Post#567415    

I need to do more of this.
Didn't throw as well as I expected today.
"No excuses, no explanations" Tony Dungy

"You can't always control what happens to you, but you can always control how you respond."

Left Handed Freak


 
Terry Gibbs 
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08-05-09 12:17 AM - Post#571088    

Dani Samuels, - every now and then a kid comes along who is a world beater, never kicks on, new year new kid, and the cycle goes on...and then along came Dani....

fingers crossed for Berlin


oh yeah, better do the "Aussie Aussie Aussie Oi Oi Oi...."
"We all overtrain" Pat Casey to George Frenn


 
Chris Rice 
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08-24-09 08:27 AM - Post#574333    

Can anyone point me to some videos of the thrower in the picture above? Still pictures are great but I seem to be able to learn even more from video or a series of stop action pics. Thanks

 
Dan John 
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08-24-09 08:30 AM - Post#574335    

Go to youtube.com and type in Dani Samuels. There is a whole bunch from the worlds...
Never Let Go.

Dan John


 
Ty 
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08-24-09 11:56 AM - Post#574377    

Thanks for edit in the original post Dan. I'm feelin' the love.
The details matter less than the
violent application of the plan.~Dan John

Correct exercise, tremendous weights, and hard,
hard work. It's as simple as that.~McCallum

Squats





 
Chris Rice 
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08-24-09 02:18 PM - Post#574399    

Thanks Dan. I'm trying to get a collection of videos of the better lady throwers to show my junior high and HS girl throwers - they keep saying - "but he's a guy - he's bigger, or stronger, or whatever". Hopefully showing them some video - especially of girls with good technique and big throws will help them realize whats possible for them.

 
Dan John 
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08-24-09 02:23 PM - Post#574400    

Stef's gold medal throw from Bejing and the World winner by Dani...best I've seen.
Never Let Go.

Dan John


 
Niel Patel 
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The Hips High Position in Throwing.
08-25-09 11:08 PM - Post#574696    

Any recommendations of a good TGU video on youtube?

I've tried it once, and sadly, got confused as hell.
"Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited, whereas imagination embraces the entire world, stimulating progress, giving birth to evolution."

- Albert Einstein

http://nielpatel.blogspot.com


Edited by Niel Patel on 08-25-09 11:08 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
Dan John 
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08-25-09 11:30 PM - Post#574697    

Buy "Kalos Stenos." Sometimes for free you get less than you paid for it.
Never Let Go.

Dan John


 
Niel Patel 
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08-26-09 06:19 PM - Post#574800    

Ah, another item on the "things to buy" list.

Might not purchase it any time soon, but sometime in the future for sure.
"Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited, whereas imagination embraces the entire world, stimulating progress, giving birth to evolution."

- Albert Einstein

http://nielpatel.blogspot.com


 
Terry Gibbs 
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08-27-09 08:09 PM - Post#574960    

When I played back her throws in slo mo, I was amazed at her right foot in the centre when she lands. Text book.
"We all overtrain" Pat Casey to George Frenn


 
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