05-24-09 03:30 PM - Post#554617    

You want sore?

1 Dbl Clean to 1 Dbl Front Squat
2 Dbl Cleans to 2 Dbl Front Squats
3 Dble Cleans to 3 Dble Front Squats...

Up to ten is the goal. Don't put the bells down. The record is finishing four (4 plus 4).

Off you go now...get the 10's with the 32s and get back to me on my next hard idea.

I'll be waiting...

Daniel John Just handing down what I was handed down... Make a Difference. Live. Love. Laugh. Balance work, rest, play and pray (enjoy beauty and solitude) Sleep soundly. Drink Water. Eat veggies and protein. Walk. Wear your seat belt. Don’t smoke. Floss your teeth. Put weights overhead. Pick weights off the floor. Carry weights. Reread great books. Say thank you

05-24-09 04:34 PM - Post#554626    

Yep these are fun. I use KB's. Cleans to frt squat to press.

It don't matter

05-24-09 06:06 PM - Post#554633    

I will try this tonight.

http://squatrx.blogspot.com/

05-24-09 11:13 PM - Post#554706    

Yeah well, how many pull-ups can you do tough guy?


...Four. ...w. the 1.5 pood. This will be my "work your weakness" thing for a while.

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05-25-09 08:36 AM - Post#554728    

Sounds like a good complement to the 2, 3, 5, 10 Dbl KB Press workout. This is doubtless harder than it looks.

For "N Dbl Cleans to N Dbl Front Squats", do we do 1 Dbl Clean followed by 1 Dbl Front Squat, repeating N times without a pause, then rest in the rack position before proceeding with the N+1 set?

"Coyote is always waiting, and Coyote is always hungry."

05-25-09 08:57 AM - Post#554733    

Do the walking alternate kettlebell press as an active rest. Cool down with the two kettlebell swings. Finish with dying.

Mark it Zero.

05-25-09 09:49 AM - Post#554742    

• Steve Rogers Said:

Yes, it is harder than it looks.

No putting down the bells - the only rest is in the rack position.

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05-25-09 11:00 AM - Post#554747    

• Quoting:

Sure, go ahead and make them think it's easy to rest in the rack position.

05-25-09 11:35 AM - Post#554752    

I tried something of whatever that was.

Threw the horrible at a big meet with the 16#hammer. Was making the same technical error on all three throws.

So I punished myself trying to do this. I need to get all pumped up and sexy looking for Draper fest.

Kbell Dbl Clean to Dbl Front Squat
05-25-09 11:41 AM - Post#554754    

I do one right the other in one giant set. Only resting when I have to. I got this idea from the real old time lifters. Pre WW 1 and 2. These were stage strong men. The TGU was also a stage lift.

It don't matter

05-25-09 11:46 AM - Post#554755    

• DanMartin Said:

The TGU is the one that bust my butt when I do it with no rest from side to side.

It don't matter

05-25-09 05:48 PM - Post#554859    

My rack position seems to suck. Shoulder fatigue was making itself known after a couple ladders.

Though I haven't done KB front squats ever, so it very likely is due to sucky rack position.

05-26-09 08:07 AM - Post#554946    

Tried them this morning with a pair of 20 kg KBs. I got through round 4 before quitting. Might of made another, but I was ready to stop. Finnished off with Dbl KB Presses.

Interesting, and it is tougher than you'd think. Resting in the rack position is probably good for my lazy rhomboids.

"Coyote is always waiting, and Coyote is always hungry."

05-26-09 09:47 AM - Post#554969    

I'll give it a shot with the 24s today.

05-26-09 10:53 AM - Post#554992    

• Boris Said:

It don't matter

05-27-09 01:18 PM - Post#555342    

4 + 4 with the 24s was tough.

05-27-09 03:15 PM - Post#555382    

Thank you. I'll see you at ten...


Just kidding, I can't even think around four.

Daniel John Just handing down what I was handed down... Make a Difference. Live. Love. Laugh. Balance work, rest, play and pray (enjoy beauty and solitude) Sleep soundly. Drink Water. Eat veggies and protein. Walk. Wear your seat belt. Don’t smoke. Floss your teeth. Put weights overhead. Pick weights off the floor. Carry weights. Reread great books. Say thank you

05-27-09 03:24 PM - Post#555386    

Up to triples with the 32's. Okay, but uncomfortable.
Now I want to do 10's...

05-27-09 03:40 PM - Post#555391    

A lot of heavy breathing was going on.

05-28-09 03:10 PM - Post#555650    

Hi Dan,

You said.."the goal is ten; the record is finishing four (4 plus 4)".

I'm a a little confused; you do 1 rep, then 2, then 3...up to 10; a ladder, etc; correct? then repeat __ times?
Can you elaborate on the second half of the above statement?

Thanks

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05-28-09 03:21 PM - Post#555653    

Yeah, essentially a ladder.

1+1 = 1 clean/1 squat

4+4 = 4 cleans/4 squats (after having worked your way up)

05-28-09 03:55 PM - Post#555663    

Yes.

Daniel John Just handing down what I was handed down... Make a Difference. Live. Love. Laugh. Balance work, rest, play and pray (enjoy beauty and solitude) Sleep soundly. Drink Water. Eat veggies and protein. Walk. Wear your seat belt. Don’t smoke. Floss your teeth. Put weights overhead. Pick weights off the floor. Carry weights. Reread great books. Say thank you

05-28-09 08:45 PM - Post#555750    

• Dan John Said:

And I thought it was just me. Tried 5 this morning with the 20's and half way through the 5th rung I forgot the front squat. Concentration gets to be challenging.

"Coyote is always waiting, and Coyote is always hungry."

05-29-09 06:44 PM - Post#556034    

Dan,

So, you're saying the most you've done is:

1
1, 2
1, 2, 3
1, 2, 3, 4...without setting the bells down?

If you don't set the bells down, how much rest do you take between rungs, to 'separate' them; 2-5 seconds?
As soon as my back is healed, I'd love to try this, it sounds grueling!

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05-29-09 07:26 PM - Post#556043    

DEvans.
There's no rest.
1 clean, 1 front squat, 2 cleans, 2 front squats, 3 cleans, 3 front squats, 4 cleans, for front squats.
All back to back.

05-29-09 08:25 PM - Post#556055    

I see. In the first post, when Dan wrote it out, it resembled a ladder template, whic has rest between the rungs, that's how I was picturing it in my mind.
Got it now...man that's a killer!

Thanks

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05-29-09 09:53 PM - Post#556059    

If you rest, you can't put the kbs down.

05-29-09 10:03 PM - Post#556062    

Exactly. Resting is overrated. At best, I will live to be 120. That means I will rest until the end of the world, which as everyone knows is 5321 A.D.

So, I have ages to rest.

Don't you all remember when the aliens landed at the White House and warned us of all of this. It was great. My favorite part was when President Carter said: "Don't tell the stupid people...otherwise it will scare them!"

You all remember this, right?

Daniel John Just handing down what I was handed down... Make a Difference. Live. Love. Laugh. Balance work, rest, play and pray (enjoy beauty and solitude) Sleep soundly. Drink Water. Eat veggies and protein. Walk. Wear your seat belt. Don’t smoke. Floss your teeth. Put weights overhead. Pick weights off the floor. Carry weights. Reread great books. Say thank you

05-29-09 11:24 PM - Post#556067    

I've tried "rest" intervals of 3 to 15 seconds. Longer provides more time under tension for the postural muscles. You can only stand so much rest.

"Coyote is always waiting, and Coyote is always hungry."

05-30-09 11:06 AM - Post#556113    

It's like resting in GS competition. You aren't doing reps and the weight is crushing you.

I am thinking that this little combo might be the best rhomboid workout of all time. Notice how you "unfold" after doing it.

Daniel John Just handing down what I was handed down... Make a Difference. Live. Love. Laugh. Balance work, rest, play and pray (enjoy beauty and solitude) Sleep soundly. Drink Water. Eat veggies and protein. Walk. Wear your seat belt. Don’t smoke. Floss your teeth. Put weights overhead. Pick weights off the floor. Carry weights. Reread great books. Say thank you

05-30-09 11:25 AM - Post#556118    

Going for a little walk/jog afterwards might be a fat burner par excellence.

Mark it Zero.

05-30-09 11:46 AM - Post#556125    

"Rest is overratted" You should trademark that!!

"Longer provides more time under tension for the postural muscles. You can only stand so much rest." Now that's serious irony...the more you 'rest' the harder it gets!!

Good analogy using the rack in GS comp; it's far from "rest".

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05-30-09 12:13 PM - Post#556141    

After that workout...the simple act of walking would be an accomplishment in itself!

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05-30-09 05:22 PM - Post#556214    

Got as far as 3 cleans and 2 squats before losing form with a pair of 24kg bells.
Definitely going to work this

"For sure, grit and spit will get you so far but it will also grind you down and leave you spent. Good movement, superior movement, that is where grace and power live." My 2011 Training Log

05-30-09 07:32 PM - Post#556235    

Off on a tangent to this combo, but did anyone ever try squat cleaning kettlebells?

The most important test a lifter has to pass is the test of time. -Jon Cole

Kbell Dbl Clean to Dbl Front Squat
05-31-09 08:03 PM - Post#556411    

Dan,

How many days a week would you recommend doing this; 2-3?
My wife is about to try it with her 12kg's. She has been doing double KB squats with her 12kg's, so she should be good to go. She's eager to see how far she can make it! :)

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Edited by Danny Evans on 05-31-09 09:59 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

05-31-09 08:53 PM - Post#556422    

I'm doing it EVERY DAY because I want to make my lows too high.

...in all seriousness, and hopefully Dan will tell us his thoughts, but IMHO as long as it isn't wiping you out and/or screwing up your other training, 2-3x/week is probably fine.

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05-31-09 09:05 PM - Post#556426    

Well, she just did;

1
1 2
1 2 3
1 2 3 4 with 12kg's

Not bad eh?

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05-31-09 10:03 PM - Post#556434    

Not bad at all.

"Coyote is always waiting, and Coyote is always hungry."

06-01-09 09:54 AM - Post#556512    

My variation.
Dbl. clean/fr. sqt.
Dbl. clean/press

Five ladders to three rungs with the 24's.

1 Dbl. clean, fr. sqt. / 1 Dbl. clean, press.
2 Dbl. clean, fr. sqt. / 2 Dbl. clean, press.
3 Dbl. clean, fr. sqt. / 3 Dbl. clean, press.

Endeavor to persevere.

06-01-09 10:01 AM - Post#556517    

Will you be bringing all your toys to camp?

• greg henger Said:

"No excuses, no explanations" Tony Dungy "You can't always control what happens to you, but you can always control how you respond." Left Handed Freak

Kbell Dbl Clean to Dbl Front Squat
06-01-09 10:44 AM - Post#556535    

I'll have 2-16K's, 2-24 K's, and 1 32K. + my sled.

Oh, Lonnie take good notes at the Bash. I expect a full report at camp. Have a safe trip and don't let Dan hurt you too much.

Endeavor to persevere.

Edited by greg henger on 06-01-09 11:08 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

06-01-09 11:49 AM - Post#556556    

I have new things to teach.

Daniel John Just handing down what I was handed down... Make a Difference. Live. Love. Laugh. Balance work, rest, play and pray (enjoy beauty and solitude) Sleep soundly. Drink Water. Eat veggies and protein. Walk. Wear your seat belt. Don’t smoke. Floss your teeth. Put weights overhead. Pick weights off the floor. Carry weights. Reread great books. Say thank you

06-01-09 11:57 AM - Post#556557    

I look forward to it.

Endeavor to persevere.

Re: Kbell Dbl Clean to Dbl Front Squat
06-01-09 12:07 PM - Post#556561    

• greg henger Said:

I will not be at the bash. Long story short, school/administration stuff. I am able to go to camp.

"No excuses, no explanations" Tony Dungy "You can't always control what happens to you, but you can always control how you respond." Left Handed Freak

Re: Kbell Dbl Clean to Dbl Front Squat
06-01-09 12:08 PM - Post#556562    

• greg henger Said:

Pillars and slosh pipes?

"No excuses, no explanations" Tony Dungy "You can't always control what happens to you, but you can always control how you respond." Left Handed Freak

06-01-09 12:37 PM - Post#556570    

Actually, if we are all serious, I can sum most of the stuff. Let's be honest, has there ever been a year where at some time at camp, you haven't looked to the sky and said: "why didn't I know this before?"

We have had years where I say it daily.

Daniel John Just handing down what I was handed down... Make a Difference. Live. Love. Laugh. Balance work, rest, play and pray (enjoy beauty and solitude) Sleep soundly. Drink Water. Eat veggies and protein. Walk. Wear your seat belt. Don’t smoke. Floss your teeth. Put weights overhead. Pick weights off the floor. Carry weights. Reread great books. Say thank you

06-01-09 01:14 PM - Post#556579    

It is always daily for me. This will be my 10th camp and my coaching/lifting life started at that first camp. For that experience then and all of the ones since, I am eternally grateful.

Although having to lug around and throw that 35 lb. weight seemed a bit harsh.

Endeavor to persevere.

Re: Kbell Dbl Clean to Dbl Front Squat
06-01-09 01:18 PM - Post#556582    

Slosh pipe should still be there and the BFR's. Bringing the car so no room for the pillars of pain.

• Lonnie Wade Said:

Endeavor to persevere.

06-01-09 01:42 PM - Post#556593    

Something I just realized. All of the significantly stupid/painful things that I have done to myself, I can trace directly back to meeting you.

Hmmmm!

Endeavor to persevere.