Corey M Pavitt
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04-01-08 11:50 PM - Post#427411
In my 30 some odd years of training, my beliefs have gone 360 degrees-a couple of times.
I am extremely reluctant to judge someone else's training because, based on past experience, there is a good chance that at some later date I will feel differently.
I have tried to stand on a balance ball a couple of times. I was able to get my feet on the ball but was unable to let go and stand up. If I practiced until I could to do so, my balance would be demonstable better. If I were able to do a bodyweight squat it would be even better.
Those of you who think I should never touch a ball may be right. Then again maybe you're not. Either way, I don't see why anyone should be offended if I choose, and am able, to stand or squat on a ball.
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hgw
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Re: Balance Balls: A different Perspective
04-01-08 11:57 PM - Post#427412
Nice post! 
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Steve C
Safety Weenie Extraordinaire!!!
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Re: Balance Balls: A different Perspective
04-02-08 10:11 AM - Post#427511
If I practiced until I could to do so, my balance would be demonstable better.
I would argue that your ability to stand on a ball would be better but your actual balance would not be improved. I.e. you would have improved at the specific task at hand, which would not have a carry-over effect to real-world activities.
As for the other assertion - nobody is offended. You have the right to stand on a ball. We have the right to think it is a waste of time.
Doesn't mean we think you are a bad person or that we are 'offended' that you did so. Just wasting your time :)
"It is not an uncommon experience for people to talk and argue a great deal about something without anybody bothering to define precisely what it is."
- Ross J.S. Hoffman
I would like to see the truth clearly before it is too late.
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Stan Jaffin
RIP, 7/13/2010
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Registered on 09-22-06
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04-02-08 10:38 AM - Post#427532
Yes. People can do stupid things without necessarily being stupid themselves.
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Steve C
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04-02-08 10:41 AM - Post#427535
Yes. People can do stupid things without necessarily being stupid themselves.
Stan - very true. Most injuries I have had, at the gym, were due to being stupid. Especially my Nautilus Triceps injury which I think I mentioned here before...now THAT was stupid. Doesn't make me stupid. IQ tests, however, would provide ample evidence for my stupidity :)
"It is not an uncommon experience for people to talk and argue a great deal about something without anybody bothering to define precisely what it is."
- Ross J.S. Hoffman
I would like to see the truth clearly before it is too late.
- Sartre
We must begin by a definition, although definition involves a mental effort and therefore repels.
- Hilaire Belloc |
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Manor
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04-02-08 10:53 AM - Post#427541
Lack of knowlegde for a particular exercise, regiment or routine is not being stupid, however claiming to have full knowledge and disregarding new information...not the wisest thing to do.
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Steve C
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04-02-08 10:59 AM - Post#427547
Lack of knowlegde for a particular exercise, regiment or routine is not being stupid, however claiming to have full knowledge and disregarding new information...not the wisest thing to do.
Well said.
Ignorance is not stupidity, merely lack of knowledge.
Blatant disregard for safety or false omniscience is stupidity.
"It is not an uncommon experience for people to talk and argue a great deal about something without anybody bothering to define precisely what it is."
- Ross J.S. Hoffman
I would like to see the truth clearly before it is too late.
- Sartre
We must begin by a definition, although definition involves a mental effort and therefore repels.
- Hilaire Belloc |
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Trance
Question Everything
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Loc: Texas
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Re: Balance Balls: A different Perspective
04-02-08 11:03 AM - Post#427550
In my 30 some odd years of training, my beliefs have gone 360 degrees-a couple of times.
If you've gone 360 degrees from any position, you'd be right back where you were, nothing's changed except maybe you'd be a bit dizzier ...
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Steve C
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Re: Balance Balls: A different Perspective
04-02-08 11:05 AM - Post#427551
In my 30 some odd years of training, my beliefs have gone 360 degrees-a couple of times.
If you've gone 360 degrees from any position, you'd be right back where you were, nothing's changed except maybe you'd be a bit dizzier ...
True!
Corey does has a great point, in that many of us have gone round with many differing opinions on what is good/bad works/doesn't work. And sometimes, 10 years later, we end up right where we started.
"It is not an uncommon experience for people to talk and argue a great deal about something without anybody bothering to define precisely what it is."
- Ross J.S. Hoffman
I would like to see the truth clearly before it is too late.
- Sartre
We must begin by a definition, although definition involves a mental effort and therefore repels.
- Hilaire Belloc |
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jordoll
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Re: Balance Balls: A different Perspective
04-02-08 11:06 AM - Post#427552
Steve~reread Corey's post. I think he means he's come full-circle a few times and will continue to do so, as we probably all do, as we learn more? 
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Dark Ferrous Metal
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Balance Balls: A different Perspective
04-02-08 11:08 AM - Post#427555
To me it appears that you get better at what you practice. If people want to get better at balancing on a ball by training with a ball that's fine. My balance was never better than when I was practicing martial arts. As long as people find something they enjoy and stick with it I'm glad for them. Nothing we do may be 100% optimal, but anything we do is 100% more optimal than nothing.
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gman
32" at navel or die!
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04-02-08 11:08 AM - Post#427556
stand on them balls all you want. Leaves more room on the floor for me when I am doing deadlifts...lol
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jordoll
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04-02-08 11:15 AM - Post#427558
I gotta say, however, there's a 70 year old guy at my former gym that used to kneel on the ball without holding on to anything. I tried this, just for s's and g's. Failed miserably. I believe he also did Tai Chi and drank chai tea! 
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Laree
(Rhymes with Marie)
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Re: Balance Balls: A different Perspective
04-02-08 11:19 AM - Post#427560
I am extremely reluctant to judge someone else's training because, based on past experience, there is a good chance that at some later date I will feel differently.
Preach it, brother!
A lot of my training ideas have turned upside down the past few years as I eased my way out of the gym I'd spent almost every day -- all day -- for nearly twenty years. And those periods of rethinking gained even more steam the past six months weaving my way through this rehab business. I'm fairly sure I won't be standing or squatting on a balance ball, but heck, even that I won't swear to.
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Ben Crawford
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04-02-08 12:37 PM - Post#427618
I drink chai tea, but haven't tried tai chi. I have had a chia pet, however it died due to lack of chi.
"Don't accumulate possessions, accumulate experiences!" Mark Batterson
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